Rifle MB at SUmmer Camp

[DTAB55]

How do you maximize your time with Rifle MB at your summer camp? We spend 1 day doing all the book/admin stuff, 1 day for cleaning and 4 days of shooting. 45 minute periods. Most of the shooting time is spent going for shooting requirements with little time for actual instruction. Class sizes vary between 6 and 15.

How does anyone else do it? Any idea are appreciated. Thanks

[deweylure]

The boys should also be spending time during the open shooting periods to qualify. The counselor is always instructing the boys .

deweylure

[RedFox]

I tend to agree, I will be the Shooting Sports Director at my Camp this summer. It's March and i'm already trying to find all the time I can in the schedule for the boys to get their shooting time in.

For ANY shooting sports badge, it is extremely important to get practice time in. If the free shoots are all full, in the past I have even added on more hours at the range for scouts to shoot....that of course would depend on time, camp policies, degree of darkness, etc.

It really depends on the instructor and the timeframe given. I attempt to get the safety portions of the badge (lay down the law, etc) done on Monday, hopefully leaving the rest of the week for shooting. Again, check with the instructor, they will do their best to see that all the boys in their classes get a fair shot at completing the badge (no pun intended...really)

Good Scouting!

[pipestone1991]

I always spent most of my time during open periods to qualify for the badge.

[hacimsaalk]

well, being from the country, and having constant access to guns, this is what i did (and what scout from my troop usually do). practice, practice, practice before camp. then when u get to camp qualify right off the bat. it saves $$ in ammo, and it saves u time taking the MB. then you'll have time to do another MB (like Shotgun shooting) lol

[pipestone1991]

Our camp refills all of their .22 caliber ammo.

[hacimsaalk]

Our camp refills all of their .22 caliber ammo.

sorry to burst your bubble, but it is impossible to reload .22 ammo. the shells are too thin, and too small. it just wont work.

[wagionvigil]

22 ammo is free at our camp you only pay for shotgun shells

[hops_scout]

Our council camp charges for both the rifle ammo and the shotgun shells.

The camp we go to gets all of their ammo and shells donated by a very well-known firearms company and then the council even gets to go as far as to sell the empty ammo casings for the copper!

This camp also does all safety instruction requirements on Sunday night for all shooting sports participants allowing more time for shooting during the week.

[bearpatrolleaderinctown]

Our camp refills all of their .22 caliber ammo.

if they are reloading their rifle ammo they are not using .22's like which is the largest size boy scouts may use for use for scouting events. even though you probably meant that they reload their shotgun shells.

[scoutaholic]

Our council camp charges for both the rifle ammo and the shotgun shells.

The camp we go to gets all of their ammo and shells donated by a very well-known firearms company 8) and then the council even gets to go as far as to sell the empty ammo casings for the copper!

This camp also does all safety instruction requirements on Sunday night for all shooting sports participants allowing more time for shooting during the week.

Our Council Camps get the .22 ammo donated from some government / military program. Millions of free bullets every year.

Then they charge the boys to use them. ($2 per target.)

At the end of the camp year, they still had enough free bullets left that the range director brought home several thousand. (He lives nearby, and has been a certified gun guy for our troop during the off seasons. We helped him use several cases of free ammo.)

[ASM-142]

Our Council Camps get the .22 ammo donated from some government / military program. Millions of free bullets every year.

Then they charge the boys to use them. ($2 per target.)

At the end of the camp year, they still had enough free bullets left that the range director brought home several thousand. (He lives nearby, and has been a certified gun guy for our troop during the off seasons. We helped him use several cases of free ammo.)

Why does the camp charge money for bullets to scouts that they received for free and then have the range director bring home remaining bullets. These remaining bullets belong to the scouts not the range director.

[pipestone1991]

Our camp refills all of their .22 caliber ammo.

sorry to burst your bubble, but it is impossible to reload .22 ammo. the shells are too thin, and too small. it just wont work.

Hey, they said they do it, I'm not making any promises but, the rifle staff says they do it, I don't know how, but...........

[RWSmith]

($2 per target.)

Wow... that seems a bit steep.

[pipestone1991]

($2 per target.)

Wow... that seems a bit steep.

...ditto, are they trying to get the scouts not to take the badge?

[scoutaholic]

($2 per target.)

Wow... that seems a bit steep.

...ditto, are they trying to get the scouts not to take the badge?

I'm not sure what their reasoning is, nor can I say that I understand what they are doing or why. I just reported that they do it that way.

Shotgun is $6.50 for 25 shots. I'm pretty sure that shells and clay pigeons are cheaper than that.

[bearpatrolleaderinctown]

i think that they are also having you pay for the items that it takes to reload the shells if they reload them but it also depends on what gauge the shotgun is because for 12 gauge i have a budget of about $12 for the remington nitro 7 1/2 bullets and that is for 2 boxes a month and then clay pegions cost me $5 dollars a box so i say that $6.50 for 25 shots is pretty fair to me.

[hacimsaalk]

i think that they are also having you pay for the items that it takes to reload the shells if they reload them but it also depends on what gauge the shotgun is because for 12 gauge i have a budget of about $12 for the remington nitro 7 1/2 bullets and that is for 2 boxes a month and then clay pegions cost me $5 dollars a box so i say that $6.50 for 25 shots is pretty fair to me.

well, i think the $6.50 is wayyy too steep. for one, most camps have ammo donated (even shotgun), and if not, they reload them, with is super cheap. for another thing, if they dont reload, they arent gonna go out and buy remington nitro's. all our camp (and im sure some others) use is wolf ammo. now for those of u who dont know, wolf ammo is dirt cheap, and really isnt all that great of quality (in a scattergun, it really doesnt matter though). they are maybe $2 0r $2.50 a box TOPS. heck, i can buy low brass 12ga 7 1/2 or 8's from wally world for around $2.99 a box. pigeons are aroung $10 for 90-100 of them, so that breaks down to $2.50 for claya total. at that price, the camp is making a profit, unless they are using winchester AA shells, and buying the most expensive clays ever.

Hey, they said they do it, I'm not making any promises but, the rifle staff says they do it, I don't know how, but...........

i wasnt calling you a liar or anything, just pointing out that it is immpossible to reload .22 shells. they're just too small.

and, $2 per target for .22 shooting. that is way to steep. that must be some pretty expensive paper, b/c i know .22 ammo is dirt cheap (500 brick for right around $15 , unless u go SUPER expensive)

[RWSmith]

Hmm... follow-up thought. I was thinking of a target costing $2.00 as being too much if only five rounds are being used / target. (I was factoring the price of the ammo into the target and assuming five rounds / target. Then, I realized I was not considering other possibilities. E.g., The type of target (the numbers of targets on the sheet), number of rounds actually used / target, etc.. You get the idea.

[hacimsaalk]

Hmm... follow-up thought. I was thinking of a target costing $2.00 as being too much if only five rounds are being used / target. (I was factoring the price of the ammo into the target and assuming five rounds / target. Then, I realized I was not considering other possibilities. E.g., The type of target (the numbers of targets on the sheet), number of rounds actually used / target, etc.. You get the idea.

that is really true. i understand what you mean. if they are using metal targets, or upper end targets, and shooting 25 rounds, then i could see it. if thety are using premium ammo, i could also see having a price like that.