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Postby LSR » Mon May 05, 2008 10:58 pm

Interesting question came up in tonight's Cub Scout meeting-what are the BSA requirements to teach a class? I've taken TDC. BothI and one of our Den Leaders are certified for Range Safety BB/Archery. What do we need to conduct training for other adultd in the District for BB/Archery?
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Postby wagionvigil » Tue May 06, 2008 7:39 am

Anything thing like that would be camp school (week long) Certtified. I can certify Climbing Insyructors anc COPE Instructors. There are courses in the directors Guides on what is required in this training. I know that the shooting sports are probably different. BB and Archery for Cubs I believe must be done by a Field Sports Director That has been to Camp School.
I hate to mention this but there is a weekend course for Pistols that is only done by a BSA Camp SChool Instructor. This is Venturing only.
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Postby 9009scoutmaster » Tue May 06, 2008 8:18 am

I have worked at our cub scout district day camp for the last 5 years. To have a archery and BB range you have to have someone that is certified by a Field sports director.
You would need to have a class set up by your council field sports director. A national camp school field sports director is the only person who can certify a person to set up a BB or archery range
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Postby pipestone1991 » Tue May 06, 2008 6:39 pm

I think (granted, THINK, will verify later) my SM can teach some programs. He's been to National Camp School though.
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Postby wagionvigil » Tue May 06, 2008 6:49 pm

Archery,BB Guns ----Field Sports Director

Climbing Instructor----Climbing Director

COPE Instructor---------COPE Director

Pistol Instructor----BSA Regional Field Sports Training Chair. or Equal There are only a couple in each region that can do this one.


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Postby LSR » Tue May 06, 2008 7:08 pm

Thanks for the definative, albeit not what I wanted to hear, answer! Just what does TDC equip one for?
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Postby wagionvigil » Tue May 06, 2008 7:29 pm

TDC ?? DIctrict Training Chair???
If so Basic Training. How to operate a unuit at the thuings involved.
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Postby LSR » Tue May 06, 2008 11:05 pm

wagionvigil wrote:TDC ?? DIctrict Training Chair???
If so Basic Training. How to operate a unuit at the thuings involved.


Trainer Development Conference. It was a day long how to train course (planning, communications, etc.) Darn thing gave me teacher in-service flashbacks!
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Postby wagionvigil » Wed May 07, 2008 7:37 am

Yeah, was called train the trainer at one time. These folks are trained to teach basic unit training and position specific training, CM,ACM,DL etc.
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Postby riverwalk » Wed May 07, 2008 11:30 am

I get funny looks when I call it TDC down in these parts, since TDC is also the Texas Department of Corrections. In any case "TDC" or the older Train the Trainer (yep, me too, haha) are suggested for District training teams as they will be a big help. But it can help so many more, that it is a requirement now for the new WB I think, and definitely for the Pack Trainer position.
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Re: Who can conduct training?

Postby mhjacobson » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:07 pm

TDC is a requirement for WB, basic, and advanced leadership trainers. However, it is NOT a requirement for a Pack Trainer to have participated in a Trainer Development Conference. There is now a NEW Pack Trainer module of the Cub Scout Specific training that will serve as a TDC for the Pack Trainers.
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Re: Who can conduct training?

Postby riverwalk » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:35 pm

Is that a change in syllabus, just this year? TDC has been a requirement for Pack Trainer since the inception of the new requirements of September 2006. In teaching Pack Trainer, we've been covering those requirements. If this has changed, I'll get it prior to the Fall training courses. Thanks.
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Re: Who can conduct training?

Postby mhjacobson » Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:43 pm

Currently TDC is RECOMMENDED for Pack Trainers. One of the reasons for the wording is that there are portions of the TDC that deal with recruiting training staff, publicizing the course, budget, etc., that are really specific to the District and Council level trainers who are serving as course directors for those level courses. (Pack trainers are working within their own pack). However, it was felt that some of the sessions on motiviational speaking, bring humor into training, etc., may be of assistance to pack trainers.
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Re: Who can conduct training?

Postby riverwalk » Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:02 pm

Thanks. If asked again to do this class this Fall, I'll get or update the training. :mrgreen:
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Re: Who can conduct training?

Postby mhjacobson » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:18 pm

It might be to your advantage if you could get the syllabus for the "NEW" sub scout specific training module for pack trainer. The material is totally different from the old training, is 1/2 hour longer, and is more of a see, say, and do format, with lots of hands on activities.
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