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Postby AquilaNegra2 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:02 pm

We switched last year from mixed-age to older/younger. What's happened is that the troop seems to have become very focused on the younger Scouts advancing and the older patrol is getting bored. We have one who is recruiting on the hush-hush (not as stealthily as he thinks) for a Venture crew he's going to start. I think we're going to lose the majority of the older boys to Venturing because of the restructure.

The mixed-age patrols allowed the older boys to be teaching the younger boys. They provided role models, and gained experience teaching and leading. Once they're broken by age, the younger patrol operates a LOT more like Cubs (heavy ASM involvement). I think it's a move for the worse.
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Postby wagionvigil » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:14 pm

The best thing out of this is you are Getting Venturing Crew. I realize you will disagree with me.
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Postby pipestone1991 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:08 pm

We have four patrols. In June I become a JASM and have been given the reins of one of the patrols. It will include 8 fresh scouts from cubbing. One has shown up and a few more are coming, this will be fun xD....my troop has probably got 15-20 new scouts this year and now I'm thge oldest scout. :twisted:
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Postby joat » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:50 pm

AquilaNegra2 wrote: I think we're going to lose the majority of the older boys to Venturing because of the restructure.

Boys are bored because the program is focused on the young kids. What program activities does the troop have that interests the older experienced boys? Boys don't quit if the troop has an exciting, engaging program.
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Postby deweylure » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:33 am

In our Troop we do re arrange the patrop if needed. We have a new scout patrol if there are enough scouts and assign them a troop guide and an ASM.

On trips attendance might be low if thi8s happens we combine them in one patrol for ease of shopping and equipment. T

the parents do not decide who is in what patrol.

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Postby AquilaNegra2 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:54 am

wagionvigil wrote:The best thing out of this is you are Getting Venturing Crew. I realize you will disagree with me.

If it stays boys, no disagreement at all ;-)
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Postby wagionvigil » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:40 pm

You have and issue with Coed?
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Postby pipestone1991 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:51 pm

wagionvigil wrote:You have and issue with Coed?


Some people do. Like it or not, us high school students got the hormone's raging. It's not something you can just naturally turn off. However, I still think having girls is in Venturing is an ok thing. But, I think in turn you need to have a female leader also.

On a different note, I adamently believe boy scouts is meant for boys and not girls.
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Postby wagionvigil » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:03 pm

When you are coed you MUST have a Female adult(registered) on each utng that a girl attends.
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Postby pipestone1991 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:22 pm

wagionvigil wrote:When you are coed you MUST have a Female adult(registered) on each utng that a girl attends.


Oh! Then I'm fine with it.
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Postby Hubert » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:30 pm

I like Coed because I learn a lot from the opposite sex. Females know more about certian topics than some males, and it is likewise for males. I learn a lot from being in a Venture Crew
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Postby AquilaNegra2 » Mon May 05, 2008 4:28 am

Camping and building intimate friendships with a youth-led group made up mostly of 16-20 year old men isn't really where I want my beautiful and lovely 17 year old princess.

To each his own. If there were single-sex Venture crews, I'd be a lot more comfortable :-).
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Postby Mrw » Mon May 05, 2008 11:36 am

AquilaNegra2 wrote:Camping and building intimate friendships with a youth-led group made up mostly of 16-20 year old men isn't really where I want my beautiful and lovely 17 year old princess.

To each his own. If there were single-sex Venture crews, I'd be a lot more comfortable :-).


As a mom who remembers being 17, the co-ed venture Crew is a good place for your daughter to be. Keep in mind there are female chaperones if there are female crew members. And also keep in mind that your 17 year old will soon be 18 and legally an adult and allowed to make her own decisions. I am sure she knows where you stand on the question of "how close" to get to a male friend or significant other. You just have to learn to trust that she has learned to make good choices.
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Postby AquilaNegra2 » Tue May 06, 2008 1:41 am

It's not HER I worry about ;-). For parents who are comfortable with this, I'm sure it's a lot better option than most groups. Just not for us.
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