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Postby sgtfrey » Tue May 16, 2006 3:59 pm

I was going through trails.com and backpacker etc and they have tons of gear reviews and I thought it would be good to have a similar one for recommended equipment for Scouts.

Here's the layout I was thinking
Ratings:
Difficulty to use: 1-5 (1 being a Tenderfoot can operate without supervision and 5 being leave this to the Ventures who are planning on becoming a Chemist)

Durability 1-5

Fuels able to use

Recommend for Scouts

Conditions used in

3 Positive comments

3 negative comments

Don't try this at home

I'll post one and see if you like the format
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Coleman Peak 1 Stove

Postby sgtfrey » Tue May 16, 2006 4:25 pm

The Coleman Peak 1 Stove

Diff: 2-3 takes some training for White Gas stove users

Durability: 3

Fuels: White Gas

Recommend for Scouts: Yes for 2nd Class or higher, practice recommended before field use

Conditions Used:
Pacific Nortwest all 4 seasons temps ranging from -2 deg @ 7300 ft to +100 deg high winds. Louisiana and Arkansas in summertime (heavy rain). Owned for 10 years used in Coastal areas, Mountains, Rafting trips.

3 Positives:
1 easy priming and quick ignition since you don't have to pour priming gas if it is pumped up enough.

2 Seperate Fuel tank and stove so you can carry multiple bottles and you don't have to worry about overheating the fuel can.

3 Simmer Capable can go from roaring to light simmer easily

3 Negatives
1 Frame is light duty material that bend easily

2. Pot Supports bend extremely easily

3. with light duty metals difficult to pack without bending part of it, but can be bent back into shape with hands or multitool

DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME

Don't leave this stove out in the rain over night, the ports fill with water and when you go to prime it the fuel spreads ALL over the place (the body, the table under it) and becomes a fire hazard. As soon as it is cool enough it needs to be packed away again to be safe.

Othe comments: I owned this stove for almost 10 years and when my son lost his Pocket Rocket style stove I gave him my peak 1. He uses it regularly and it is big enough he can't lose it as easily.
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Postby FrankJ » Tue May 16, 2006 7:06 pm

Any liquid fuel or compressed gas stove require adult supervision (G2S). I guess the only stoves left would be the solid fuel tab or wood fires. Personally for younger scouts I like the propane or mixed gas stoves. They are easy to use, relatively safe, and fairly fool proof.
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Postby 616kayak » Tue May 16, 2006 9:08 pm

They have a good selection in the boys life a few months back. I use the onee in there by msr. Itd consider it a 1 on easy to use and a 10 on preformance. You will never need to carry around extra fuel just one tank will boil a ton of water. Ive used it in the Smokeys and all over florida.
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Postby deweylure » Wed May 17, 2006 12:16 pm

Propane are the safest to use in my opinion since the canisters basically screw on . There are a few stoves which use a butane mix.

It seems the gear is getting better all the time unfortunately i do not have the disposible income to get a new model each year. My suggestion before buying one is to try several brands . I believe REI rents stoves. I would also read some of the reports on the stoves but do not bnuy because the magazine said to

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Postby 616kayak » Wed May 17, 2006 5:08 pm

deweylure wrote:but do not bnuy because the magazine said to


im guessing you mean me , but just to clarify. I have had my stove for 3 years long before the magazine published the article. I sited the magazine as a place to read a detailed review done by an expert on the topic.
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Postby pipestone1991 » Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:00 pm

MSR Whisperlite

Ease of Starting Up-4

Weight-1

Time takes to boil hot water-2

Ease of keeping on-5

Ease of cleaning-1

Overall-2
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Postby OldGrayOwl » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:10 am

http://www.trailstove.com/

Ratings:
Difficulty to use: 1

Durability 1 It is rather hard to break it since there are NO moving parts or ports to clog up.

Fuels able to use: Wood - sticks, twigs

Recommend for Scouts: YES

Conditions used in: ANY conditiions

3 Positive comments: No fuel to leak out in your pack. Fuel is FREE. Stove is lightweight (< 1 pound)

3 negative comments: Can't think of any

Don't try this at home: Why not?

This stove is GREAT. I have one and have used it quite a bit. The fuel savings alone is a good reason to by one. It is very easy to light. If you want to carry fuel, you can use Sterno in it, instead of wood. The design makes it a chimney and it actually roars when in use.
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Postby Fibonacci » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:50 am

That trailstove is fascinating. We enjoyed the youtube video that the Canadian man made.
3 negative comments: Can't think of any

Those of you backpacking in the East or hiking the Appalachian Trail would have many opportunities to collect firewood. Here in the West, Leave-No-Trace principles are enforced, burning or campfires are often banned, and there is no wood available in the high country (Yosemite, for example.) But for a through hiker on the AT, it seems like a terrific choice.
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Postby OldGrayOwl » Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:51 pm

Well,
with that stove, you can also use Sterno, and with the updarft of the stove, it will roar like one of the high pressure gas stoves.
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Postby scouter01 » Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:17 pm

Depends for what. car camping a nice big onelike this: http://camping.lovetoknow.com/Coleman_425_Camping_Stove


for backbacking or canoeing, the MSR whisper light is nice.
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Postby OldGrayOwl » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:45 pm

True,
But you STILL have to carry fuel, and if you run out, then what?
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Postby LSR » Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:01 pm

OldGrayOwl wrote:Well,
with that stove, you can also use Sterno, and with the updarft of the stove, it will roar like one of the high pressure gas stoves.


The alcohol burner looks like a fancy version of the "pepsi can stove"
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MSR Pocket Rocket

Postby rich5665 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:47 pm

My Troop has moved to light weight camping, in order to do this we decided on portable stoves. After pulling various add comparisons and some hands on testing we went with the MSR Pocket Rocket.

Positives
1: Light Weight
2: Easy to Use
3: Comes with a protect case

Negatives
1: Needs a flat surface
2: No wind Sheild
3: Adult Supervision needed

The third negative would apply to any cooking situation for younger scouts. Boys just like to play with fire.
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