Shortage of Counselors

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Shortage of Counselors

Postby optimist » Sat Aug 14, 2004 8:33 pm

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Kobalt
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Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Posts: 98
Location: Louisville, KY
Posted: 17 Jul 2004 02:42 pm Post subject: Shortage of
Counselors

We have a problem within our troop. Not necessarily our troop,
but what the troop has to work with. In my area, we have
almost zero known counselors. My troop usually has to have
parents teach the Merit Badges. While this is okay, the
parents only know so much. Is there any way I can find
counselors in my area, and get them to come to our meetings?
Thanks for your replies.
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John Baunach
Troop 42
"If it were easy, it would have been done before." -Jeana
Yeager, co-pilot of Voyager

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optimist
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Joined: 27 Jun 2004
Posts: 146

Posted: 17 Jul 2004 05:33 pm Post subject:

Is there a specific reason for this lack of merit badge
counselors? For instance, I have a friend who lives in a tiny
community in the Alaskan wilderness. Obviously they do not
have a lot of resources to draw upon.

Any adult who has good knowledge of a merit badge subject is a
potential merit badge counselor. This includes parents. In
fact, parents often make the best merit badge counselors
because they have a vested interest in the success of the
program.

So actually, there are probably quite a few merit badge
counselors in your area, they just simply haven't been asked
to help out yet

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Kobalt
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Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Posts: 98
Location: Louisville, KY
Posted: 17 Jul 2004 06:57 pm Post subject:

Louisville's the 16th largest city in the nation, so there
shouldn't be any. No, the main problem is that we don't know
where to find them. I'm not sure the thing I should ask my
doctor after an appointment is, "Hey, by the way: would you
like to help some Boy Scouts earn the Medicine Merit Badge?"
That would be a little awkward, I think, but if it's what I
have to do, I'll do it. Would they need to sign up for
anything, or could they just show up at a meeting and start?
Our troop isn't that experienced with MB Counselors. I'm not
even sure if we should pay the ones outside of our troop...
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John Baunach
Troop 42
"If it were easy, it would have been done before." -Jeana
Yeager, co-pilot of Voyager

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optimist
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Posted: 17 Jul 2004 07:41 pm Post subject:

Yes, that's exactly what you do. For lots of helpful
information about recruiting merit badge councelors, go to the
BSA Program Info section on this web site.

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Kobalt
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Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Posts: 98
Location: Louisville, KY
Posted: 17 Jul 2004 11:10 pm Post subject:

What would you say we pay the counselors? Is it a per-Scout
type of payment, or just a flat fee? Thanks so much for your
help.
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John Baunach
Troop 42
"If it were easy, it would have been done before." -Jeana
Yeager, co-pilot of Voyager

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BM_Crawford
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Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Posts: 131
Location: PA W/F Council
Posted: 17 Jul 2004 11:20 pm Post subject:

I feel bad for you We have tons of councilors out here.
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Brian Crawford
Troop 251

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Kobalt
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Location: Louisville, KY
Posted: 17 Jul 2004 11:31 pm Post subject:

Heh, don't worry. There are many resources; we just haven't
scratched the surface yet.
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John Baunach
Troop 42
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BM_Crawford
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Location: PA W/F Council
Posted: 17 Jul 2004 11:32 pm Post subject:

Thats good, and just think once you get eagle you can be come
a councilor too!
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Brian Crawford
Troop 251

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Kobalt
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Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Posts: 98
Location: Louisville, KY
Posted: 17 Jul 2004 11:38 pm Post subject:

You don't have to be an adult to be a counselor? That's good.
I'm technically going to be teaching Astronomy this coming
Tuesday, but I'm going to have to get our Assistant
Scoutmaster or a parent to sign off on the requirements.
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John Baunach
Troop 42
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Yeager, co-pilot of Voyager

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BM_Crawford
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Location: PA W/F Council
Posted: 18 Jul 2004 10:22 am Post subject:

No you do have to be an adult.
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Brian Crawford
Troop 251

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ScoutmasterBob
Counselor

Joined: 07 Jul 2004
Posts: 79
Location: Woods Cross, Utah
Posted: 19 Jul 2004 02:13 pm Post subject:

Contact your local council office. Our Council maintains a
list of "registered" MB counselors in our council, maybe yours
does as well.

If they Dont, find out who the Scoutmasters are in the troops
around your city and ask them about their MBC Im sure they
would help.

While SM and ASM can sign off MBs, they are limited as to how
many they can do in a given year. Check with council for more
info.

Finding MBC should be the responsibility of the Scout
Committee. Find out who the Committee Chair is for your Troop
and have him dig into it.
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Scoutmaster Troop 538
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Kobalt
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Location: Louisville, KY
Posted: 20 Jul 2004 11:10 am Post subject:

Okay. Thanks for all your help. I'm going to ask my
Scoutmaster tonight, and maybe we can get things straightened
out.
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John Baunach
Troop 42
"If it were easy, it would have been done before." -Jeana
Yeager, co-pilot of Voyager

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wagionvigil
Counselor

Joined: 21 Jul 2004
Posts: 191
Location: PA
Posted: 22 Jul 2004 11:59 am Post subject: RE Merit Badge
Counselors

WE have a Merit Badge Chairman in each of our 4 districts,
That person is responsible for putting together a MErit Badge
Counselor book for their own district. ANyone doing Merit
BAdges MUST be registered with council as a counselor and
there is no charge for this. All they do is complete an adult
Application and a Merit BAdge Counselor Application To
Council. The list is made up from there. WE also have a MErit
Badge Camporee every two or three years at Penn State Fayette
Campus. Usually this is a winter event and SCouts can usually
take two or three merit badges over the weekend.
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Firefish
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Joined: 05 Jul 2004
Posts: 145
Location: Beaver, Pa
Posted: 22 Jul 2004 03:51 pm Post subject:

wagoinvigil and BM-crawford where do you live in PA? Also you
should be able to find a list somewhere from your council see
if they have a website.
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Peter Cahill
Troop 469
A Fighting Irish

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Firefish
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Location: Beaver, Pa
Posted: 22 Jul 2004 03:52 pm Post subject:

sorry I posted this twice and edited it
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Peter Cahill
Troop 469
A Fighting Irish

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Postby optimist » Sat Aug 14, 2004 8:34 pm

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BM_Crawford
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Location: PA W/F Council
Posted: 22 Jul 2004 10:28 pm Post subject:

Bushy Run District and Westmorland Feyette Council
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Brian Crawford
Troop 251

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Firefish
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Joined: 05 Jul 2004
Posts: 145
Location: Beaver, Pa
Posted: 23 Jul 2004 12:46 pm Post subject:

where is that I am greater pittsburgh
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Peter Cahill
Troop 469
A Fighting Irish

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Guneukitschik
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Joined: 02 Aug 2004
Posts: 162
Location: Waynesboro, PA
Posted: 05 Aug 2004 09:45 pm Post subject:

Our Troop sponsored a Merit Badge Counselor training
night....we invited the parents of the scouts from many
different troops in the area...
First they completed Youth Protection Training and then the
Merit badge Counselor Training...it really expanded the MBC
listing for our area/council.

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optimist
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Where do Counselors come from

Postby riverwalk » Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:43 pm

8) Okay, kinda new here, so I haven't read all responses to these posts. But, I like to jump in sometimes, even after the thread has cooled off.

Don't forget the following sources for MB Counselors. Local government employees will have most of the backgrounds or interest in the Badges currently offered. And local Seniors and/or Retired people may have what you need...and may seek an opportunity to do something like this. Also, some local business people may have been Scouts, and with the years and life's distractions, haven't thought of Merit Badges. Perhaps they aren't looking to be a regular Scouter, but may be happy to share ("give back") time and professional skills with the Youth. :idea:
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