ATVs

[scubascout]

My eagle scout project would be much easier if we can use an ATV. Is that against the safe guide to scouting

Thanks
Scubascout

[Hubert]

Since scouts are not allowed to use power tools, I do not hink you your self can use an ATV, being a minor. However, if you delegate an adult to do so, it would also increase your leadership a little bit. So I say just have an adult use the ATV. Just do your part of the project and lead on what needs to be done with it.

[PaulSWolf]

My eagle scout project would be much easier if we can use an ATV. Is that against the safe guide to scouting

Thanks
Scubascout

Yes, it is against the Guide to Safe Scouting:

Unauthorized and Restricted Activities

The following activities have been declared unauthorized and restricted by the Boy Scouts of America:

* All-terrain vehicles (ATVs) are banned from program use. ATVs are defined as motorized recreational cycles with three or four large, soft tires, designed for off-road use on a variety of terrains.

That means EVERYONE, even for the Eagle Project.

[joat]

Since scouts are not allowed to use power tools ...

Other than chain saws and log splitters there is no restriction on the use of power tools by Scouts. Just use common sense which would include instruction on safe use of the tool.

[Hubert]

Since scouts are not allowed to use power tools ...

Other than chain saws and log splitters there is no restriction on the use of power tools by Scouts. Just use common sense which would include instruction on safe use of the tool.

Wow, I was always we cant use any. Which made me mad seeing how I knew how to...lol.

[ASM-142]

The use of power tools is included in the G2SS.

[PaulSWolf]

The use of power tools is included in the G2SS.

Actually, the only reference to power tools in the G2SS is this:

The following activities have been declared unauthorized and restricted by the Boy Scouts of America:
* Chainsaws and mechanical log splitters may be authorized for use only by trained individuals over the age of 18, using proper protective gear in accordance with local laws.

A search of the text of the G2SS for the terms "Power" and "Tools" yields NO other citations, "power" appears twice, and "Tools" once, but not together and not in reference to their use by Scouts.

[Nuts4Scouts]

Actually the use of power tools is addressed in the Guide to Safe Scouting.

It is in the Guide's Appendix, Age-Appropriate Guidelines for Scouting Activities.

http://www.scouting.org/pubs/gss/ageguides.pdf

Under the Tools section, power tools are listed last. According to the chart, they are appropriate for Boy Scout age and older.

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[PaulSWolf]

Thanks.

I stand corrected.

I forgot to look there.

[Hubert]

So, if I am understanding this correctly, ATVs are not to be used, at all? By adults included? So like our camp ranger may not drive it around or w/e to get work done at the camp?

[riverwalk]

Safest way to operate, is avoid ATV's. Treat them like trailers and truck beds, and stay off. You can't be wrong that way. Rangers are employees, and there may be some accepted practices for them in managing the properties.

[FrankJ]

ATVs are banned for program activities by units. Does not really apply to camp rangers who operate under a different set of rules.

[scubascout]

what if i ask a police officer to drive the atv for my eagle scout project

[wagionvigil]

AS long the person driving it is not a youth and no youth ride on it I wiold see no problem with it. Also it would never hurt to contact your council service center and ask them.

[cescout]

I can see where that is going, but some projects you almost have to use power equipment, I mean why would you want your dad or another adult completing your whole project for you, This is just me personally, but things are more fun with powertools, nailguns, saws, and off-road equipment.

[cescout]

I can see where that is going, but some projects you almost have to use power equipment, I mean why would you want your dad or another adult completing your whole project for you, This is just me personally, but things are more fun with powertools, nailguns, saws, and off-road equipment.

[cescout]

I have another thing to say,

Not metioning the camp, the troop, or the person.

One summer camp we went to, there was a man who had an injured leg of some kind, not sure on the details, but he trailered a ATV here and wasn't the ranger just some adult from some troop and they issued him a pass so that he was allowed to ride it around the camp. Not to say I didn't feel bad for the guy that he wasn't allowed to walk anywhere but, I thought you can't operate any motorized equipment except on the first and last day of camp for equipment purposes only, someone tell me if I am wrong.

[Nuts4Scouts]

I can see where that is going, but some projects you almost have to use power equipment, I mean why would you want your dad or another adult completing your whole project for you.

The Scout provides the leadership. Others, adults (including parents), and youth, provide the manpower.

[Nuts4Scouts]

I have another thing to say,

Not metioning the camp, the troop, or the person.

One summer camp we went to, there was a man who had an injured leg of some kind, not sure on the details, but he trailered a ATV here and wasn't the ranger just some adult from some troop and they issued him a pass so that he was allowed to ride it around the camp. Not to say I didn't feel bad for the guy that he wasn't allowed to walk anywhere but, I thought you can't operate any motorized equipment except on the first and last day of camp for equipment purposes only, someone tell me if I am wrong.

The Scouter was disabled. Your camp made allowances to so that he could participate easier.

[cescout]

That is what I thought.