ECOH and Still Mad

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Re: ECOH and Still Mad

Postby kwildman » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:23 am

Quailman wrote:We award the rank patches when they're earned, but giving them to the scout and seeing them on the scout's shirt may be temporally distant events.


Agreed - but that is the scouts fault and not a result of poor leadership.
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Re: ECOH and Still Mad

Postby scoutaholic » Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:48 pm

kwildman wrote:...The patch should be awarded when earned regardless of when the COH is scheduled. We provide the scouts their cards and mother's pins at the COH.


I know this is the recommended way things should be done, but I've never understood this. I've NEVER seen it done this way in our area.

If I give them their patches in a troop meeting soon after they earn them, then what is the point of having a CoH? A big meeting to gather families, spend some troop money on refreshments, and do the anti-climatic "here is the paper that says you earned the patch you are already wearing."?

It would make more sense to me to recognize them in troop meeting (without the patch), and then present the patch at CoH. As long as you have regular CoHs, this won't cause undo waiting stress for anyone, and the logistics of gathering the patches etc is simplified by only having to do it once each CoH.
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Re: ECOH and Still Mad

Postby smtroop168 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:15 pm

scoutaholic wrote:I know this is the recommended way things should be done, but I've never understood this. I've NEVER seen it done this way in our area.

If I give them their patches in a troop meeting soon after they earn them, then what is the point of having a CoH? A big meeting to gather families, spend some troop money on refreshments, and do the anti-climatic "here is the paper that says you earned the patch you are already wearing."?

It would make more sense to me to recognize them in troop meeting (without the patch), and then present the patch at CoH. As long as you have regular CoHs, this won't cause undo waiting stress for anyone, and the logistics of gathering the patches etc is simplified by only having to do it once each CoH.


This is why and the reason for a lot of these post is because this isn't what is happening with this unit. What's wrong with getting the families together in the Sprirt of Scouting?????

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Re: ECOH and Still Mad

Postby cballman » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:33 pm

But being the DEVIL i have been latley. How can you reward someone right after a BOR since the only way it to prepurchase patches and that cant happen now. Since you have to have signed papers to pick up patches and most scout meetings are in the evening when the scout shop is CLOSED or live way to far away from it. I can see waiting for a COH IF and only IF they are held at least 4 times a year. Now also ask people to bring in snacks and drinks its much cheaper on each family then on the troop for refreshments.
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Re: ECOH and Still Mad

Postby smtroop168 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:49 pm

As soon as possible after the BOR which means for some at the next meeting if they have the ability to get to their scout shop. It doesn't mean months and months later.
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Re: ECOH and Still Mad

Postby KCJsDad » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:50 am

alex gregory wrote:One COH next year? Maybe this troop should really hope for another SM and CC next year. :wink:


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