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PDF Forms and Signatures

Postby ThunderingWind » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:51 am

OK, you really knowledgeable computer people....

I am in need of (would prefer to have on hand) PDF files of most BSA forms that only one person can fill out, click an option to add a BSA certified electronic signature and then submit to appropriate persons for additional electronic signatures or for printing, signature, filing etc....

One note: Only the first person filling out the form should be able to make any changes to the data.

This is done in many government agencies now. I think it is time the BSA moves forward.

Great for tour permits when the DE or approving authority is miles away.
E-mail the signed form!!
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Postby wagionvigil » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:04 am

Your Permits will be avaiable on ine in the very near future. Fill ouit hit send and then wait for a reply
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Postby ASM-142 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:10 pm

There are specific requirements on what constitutes an electonic signature for the Government. For instance, a signature on a PDA is considered an electronic record and not an electronic signature. Applying an unique user id/password to a record is an electronic signature. Electronic signature also include the use of biometrics.
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Postby ThunderingWind » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:02 pm

ASM-142 wrote:There are specific requirements on what constitutes an electonic signature for the Government. For instance, a signature on a PDA is considered an electronic record and not an electronic signature. Applying an unique user id/password to a record is an electronic signature. Electronic signature also include the use of biometrics.


That last company I worked for had electronic sigantures. they were part of our ID card that was in a slot in the keyboard when we logged in. All our MS Office Apps and PDF Forms had an option under the "EDIT" menu to "Add Electronic Signature". This placed my scanned signature in the slot, adjusted "picture" size as needed (usually the PDF forms) and added the appropriate Meta Data.

Truthfullly, using what you call an "electronic record" I feel fits what I think we should be allowed to do. Reason behind this is that it would not be able to be edited and would become a permanent part of the PDF.
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Postby ASM-142 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:08 pm

ThunderingWind wrote:
ASM-142 wrote:There are specific requirements on what constitutes an electonic signature for the Government. For instance, a signature on a PDA is considered an electronic record and not an electronic signature. Applying an unique user id/password to a record is an electronic signature. Electronic signature also include the use of biometrics.


That last company I worked for had electronic sigantures. they were part of our ID card that was in a slot in the keyboard when we logged in. All our MS Office Apps and PDF Forms had an option under the "EDIT" menu to "Add Electronic Signature". This placed my scanned signature in the slot, adjusted "picture" size as needed (usually the PDF forms) and added the appropriate Meta Data.

Truthfullly, using what you call an "electronic record" I feel fits what I think we should be allowed to do. Reason behind this is that it would not be able to be edited and would become a permanent part of the PDF.

The problem with using an electronic record is someonce can scan anyone's signature and apply that to a form.
Specific reference to this can be found in 21 CFR Part 11.
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