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I got ASPL

Postby Sirch » Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:21 pm

I know most of you don't care but this is a boy scout forum so i thought id post this
I got ASPL in my troop
Save the Saskachuan
I know I spelled it wrong.
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Postby wagionvigil » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:33 pm

Great! DO your part to make your troop a fantastic troop
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Postby RWSmith » Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:05 pm

Sirch...! Dude-meister...!

Welcome to the board... And congrats! on the promotion! Woo woo!

BTW, we do care; really we do.

One more thing... If a woodchuck could chuck wood, how much wood could a woodchuck chuck? :wink:
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Postby Guneukitschik » Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:30 pm

Congrats.... next step is to be TRAINED for the position of ASPL.

Good Luck!
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Postby commish3 » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:59 pm

That's great Sirch!

Aas others have said head for training as soon as possible. I recommend you get a copy of the Senior Patrol Leader Handbook and read it cover to cover (it's an easy read :)) . Then be ready to do your primary job, to aid and support the SPL.

He leads best who serves others.

Best of luck, have fun
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Re: I got ASPL

Postby Rick Tyler » Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:06 am

Sirch wrote:I got ASPL in my troop


Congratulations! Just remember that "leader" and "dictator" are not the same thing!

If Patrol Leader is the greatest job in Scouting, ASPL and SPL have to be tied for second place. Have a great time.
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Re: I got ASPL

Postby evmori » Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:33 am

Sirch wrote:I know most of you don't care but this is a boy scout forum so i thought id post this
I got ASPL in my troop


Excellent! Congrats!
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Postby Lynda J » Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:29 am

You would be surprised how much the adults here do care.
You have every reason to be very proud.
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Postby t305spl » Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:30 pm

Congratz!!! I'm an SPL and the best advice I ca give you and others here have said it. GET TRAINED SOON. Also be a good help to your SPL and you will be great.
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Postby Sirch » Sun Sep 26, 2004 4:03 pm

I went to a JLTC(Junior Leader Training Conference) earlier this summer and I already have an SPL Handbook
Thank for your congratulations.
By You probably wont care I actually meant this doenst effect you but it just came out wrong
thanks
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Postby RWSmith » Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:03 pm

Sirch wrote:By You probably wont care I actually meant this doenst effect you but it just came out wrong.


Sirch, I kinda figured that might be the case. But, since you were new to the board, I (we) had not yet been able to get familiar with your "writing personality;" so, I couldn't tell, for sure. And, since it never hurts to tell somebody you care, I (we) did.

BTW, I personally think that, quite frequently, and particularly regarding someone new, the reader tends to interpret (or mis-interpret) the writer's statement(s) depending on his or her mood at the time, rather than the writer's mood (or intent). Shameless plug: If your interested in reading a little more about this, go here, and read this thread about, 'What's this "Netiquette" stuff anyways?'.

One more thing... Glad to hear you got JLTC and have been reading the SPL HB. Wise move.
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Postby don » Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:52 pm

Congratulations! :D
Do you have any goals set for yourself while you are holding this POR?
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Postby El_Coqui » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:40 pm

It's great to hear you are trained and have the appropiate literature! Now it's time to take in to practice what you heard and what you read. It's not as easy as it looks, but everyone has the leadership skills to do a successful job!

Hope you have a great experience.

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Postby dad69 » Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:08 am

Congratulations!
Wear your patch with pride. I think that ASPL is the toughest job in the troop.
Watch the SPL and learn from his successes and his mistakes, in preparation for your promotion to SPL.
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Postby hungryman287 » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:37 pm

Congrats! I was ASPL about 5 months ago and in November I will be running for SPL
Rick Tyler wrote: Congratulations! Just remember that "leader" and "dictator" are not the same thing!


I started laughing when I saw that, its funny.
I dded it to my sig, I hope you dont have a problem with that.
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Postby Rick Tyler » Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:19 pm

hungryman287 wrote:Congrats! I was ASPL about 5 months ago and in November I will be running for SPL
Rick Tyler wrote: Congratulations! Just remember that "leader" and "dictator" are not the same thing!


I started laughing when I saw that, its funny.
I dded it to my sig, I hope you dont have a problem with that.


Go ahead, sig away. It's the advice I gave my son when he was elected Patrol Leader the first time. (He led his patrol to the National Honor Patrol Award ... not that I'm proud of him or anything.)
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Postby RWSmith » Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:14 am

Ahh, but remember... there's more than one style of leadership and, sometimes, a dictator is exactly what you need to be. A dictator is: 1) An absolute ruler, 2) A tyrant; a despot, or 3) An (ancient Roman magistrate) appointed temporarily to deal with an immediate crisis or emergency.

Nobody wants you to come across as a tyrant.

But, an absolute ruler? Sometimes. Especially during crisis or an emergency...

I know a guy who was an EMT (volunteer Rescue Squad) some years back, He had to use various, and at times, extreme styles of leadership. For example: When he was at the shed, waiting for a call, he was not a leader; he was a follower, awaiting instructions. Once a call came in, he was still a follower, obeying orders to report to such-and-such intersections to work a traffic accident. Upon arrival, once he stepped out of that ambulance and made the (mental) decision that somebody there needed his medical assistance, at that very moment, he became "the" authority on the scene. The Fire Department (since there was no fire), the Sheriff's Deputy, even the State Trooper, were at his command. That made him, for lack of a better term, a dicator. That gave him the authority and responsibilbity to get out front and lead the way. His orders could only be overruled by a more senior EMT, Paramedic or Doctor, who arrived on the scene after the first EMT. There were times you have to behave like a dictator. If somebody was "making a scene" and interfering with the EMT doing his job, he could say, "If that guy says another word, arrest him and get out of here!" and so it was. I recall a State Trooper physically removing a volunteer (an immature ambulance driver) from the scene of a traffic accident because she refused sombody's orders to put on some shoes up or leave the scene. (Was she mad? You betcha!)

Now, at he same time you're dealing with paid professionals, you're also dealing with volunteers... from well-trained fire fighters to rookie ambulance drivers. You have to be careful demanding a volunteer do anything. (Scouting is no different.) This puts you in the position of having to lead by being the driving force behind the team... motivating a group an a certain direction, even if that direction is to retreat (a power line falls, endangering the volunteers), or to even temporarily relinquish command (one of the cars involved in the accident catches fire).

Good leaders are flexible, capable of using more than one style of leadership--sometimes, seeminlgy, at the same time. I started learning this in Scouting. I'll say that again. I started learning this in Scouting. One more time. I started learning how to follow -and- how to lead as a Boy Scout.
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Postby OldGreyBear » Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:04 pm

So what you are saying is that leadship is composed of different styles, each style appropriate for the situaiton at hand, Directing, Supporting, Coaching and Delegating...


Wow, Deja Vu, where have I heard this before?
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Postby optimist » Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:02 pm

ummm, Wood Badge?
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Postby Guneukitschik » Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:22 am

Well I think you should keep in mind that most scout leaders probably don't attend a Wood Badge course and that any info you can send their direction is beneficial!
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