UtahScoutmaster wrote:Most importantly he will have learned much & been exposed to much.
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UtahScoutmaster wrote:Most importantly he will have learned much & been exposed to much.
UtahScoutmaster wrote:Back to the topic that I feel this thread relates to...recently I had the opportunity to hold an Eagle SM’s Conference of a Scout that is just turning 14. (He has a very seriously pro-active mom & they have been doing nearly everything on their own until recently.) In the conference it came out that he felt that all he was doing in life is working on MB’s. He said that felt he was done once he had his Eagle…he “Doesn’t really want to do the Scout thing anymore. I felt sick inside to hear that. I explained that now that he was Eagle that he needed to step up into more of a leadership roll, give back to the younger Scouts & troop but more importantly…not stop progressing.
I made him aware of the Palms, Conservation Award, the National Outdoor Achievement awards among other awards that were available to him. I mentioned although Eagle was a HUGE accomplishment & one to be proud of and commended for, that Scouts offered so much more for him & now is when he could really enjoy it. I told him rather than MB’s that he “had” to take there were so many that he “could" take…by choice that may interest him more. These would help make him more rounded as well as maybe gain knowledge & skills in preparation for life. I told him to just look through the list of MB’s and pick things he was interested in. Interestingly, as hard as his parents have pushed him the last two years…they too don’t seem very interested in pursuing anything more now that he is receiving his Eagle . They say that he is getting busier in life etc. Again…it kinda made me feel sick inside. I did express the same thoughts to them as I did their son. As he will be moving in to the Varsity program…we will see where he goes.
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Mrw wrote:Thanks for standing up to improve the troop for your son and the other boys involved!
As far as this kid goes, it is really far too common with the very young Eagles. Mom or Dad is very driven to have this for their son and they do all the organizing and pushing to get there. So the kid has not had much fun in the journey. Nor has he really learned anywhere near as much on the way as if he had taken longer and been allowed to make his own mistakes along the way.
I do understand why they may want to complete this before moving to the Varsity team as I have gotten the impression that advancement is not much of a focus in many teams, but it has short-changed the boy.
UtahScoutmaster wrote:Thank you so much, it really does seem to have a wealth of knowledge as well as incite.
smtroop168 wrote:UtahScoutmaster wrote:Thank you so much, it really does seem to have a wealth of knowledge as well as incite.
We have been known to incite some folks by providing our insight.![]()
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Sorry about that. Sometimes it's the Principalof the thing.
UtahScoutmaster wrote: ....will probably be longer than it should for an inaugural post....
RWSmith wrote:UtahScoutmaster wrote: ....will probably be longer than it should for an inaugural post....
Well, I see that I have just been unseated (quite unceremoniously, I might add) from my from my long-standing, unchallenged reign as "the Long Wind". -- WHEW!![]()
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UtahScoutmaster wrote:RWSmith wrote:UtahScoutmaster wrote: ....will probably be longer than it should for an inaugural post....
Well, I see that I have just been unseated (quite unceremoniously, I might add) from my from my long-standing, unchallenged reign as "the Long Wind". -- WHEW!![]()
P.S. Welcome to the forums.
LOLYeah...I had lots on my mind last night. I doubt I will have such a long winded single post again. Just had to get some thoughts out before they were gone.
RWSmith wrote:Oh, no you don't! You're not getting off that easy! -- You have a responsibility now... to your fans. Ergo, to occasionally remind us of your passion for Scouting. (Oh, and your uncanny ability to stand on a soap-box and give a long speech while hopping up and down on one leg, chewing gum, patting your head, and rubbing your belly in a circular fashion.)
Note, I said, occasionally... so, you only have to do the soap-box part once-in-a-while.
ronin718 wrote:Unfortunately, the scenario UTSM describes is all too common in the LDS realm.
There are only two rules that he must abide by:
1. He must continue to work on "advancements", i.e. Palms and MBs. No sitting on his laurels even though he's banked enough MBs for his Double Silver.
2. He must continue to provide leadership and participate in his patrol/troop activities.
JH-SM-T03 wrote:No memtion anywhere in the article of this Scouts age. Only his HS grade and college plans in 2012.
AquilaNegra2 wrote:Dear BSA, Thank you SO much for adding all the nice, expensive merit badges at the tail end of my son's journey.![]()
#2 is counting down his final week. Four Bugle calls still to be done to the instructor's satisfaction, a video re-re-re-edit (choosing a college professor with an Emmy to be your Cinematography merit badge counselor was an interesting choice), and a review of your models and scale (ditto on choosing the high-achiever structural engineer for the Modeling badge) to go.
His sisters have patiently been waiting for "their turn". His mom is chronically exhausted (#2 doesn't drive) and his dad is chronically broke (#2 doesn't have a job). But it has all been worth it. Yes, even SCUBA.
Seriously, though, a huge "thank you" to BSA National -- for NOT releasing Search & Rescue yet.
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