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Postby diamondbackAPL » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:54 pm

i DONT kNOW WHETHER OR NOT I SHOULD TRANSFER PATROLS. see my patrol is messed up our patrol leader doesnt let you say opinions and if you do you get pinched in the back of the neck till you sit and shut up. and theres another guy that wont sit and is violent he kicks me at almost every meeting and another one is very hyper and wont sit down and the 2 people that behave besides me hardly ever show up ive tlked to leaders about it like spl and they wont do anything what do i do?[/list]
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Postby Mrw » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:26 pm

First of all, there should be no physical contact between patrol members in the way you describe. Pinching is not ANYWHERE in the books as a suggested means of asserting control.

The guy who is kicking is also out of line. The hyper guy may just not be able to help himself.

Go to the Scoutmaster or an Assistant Scoutmaster about the bullying. It should not be tolerated and may be why some of the other guys are skipping.

Ignore the hyper guy for now and if the meetings are going in a way he has something to do, he will improve in his behavior.
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Postby EagleBoy62204 » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:45 pm

i wouldnt say tatle telling is the best method. if you can, stand up for your self. telling on the kid wont make your situation better. Although it is probably the best thing there, there are stupid kids out there and they will always find some way to make fun of why you told on that kid.

Go to the SPL. Thats what hes there for. If nothing works from him, then go to his boss who is the Scoutmaster. If he does nothing then you have a problem
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Postby commish3 » Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:47 am

Reporting physical violence is not tattling, and scouts or even youth not involved in scouting should know and understand that they can report such behavior to a responsible adult.

I disagree that the SPL is the correct person to talk to. Adult leaders in the unit are specifically charged by the BSA to be responsible for intervening in any activity that involves the safety of the youth in their charge.

Talk to the scoutmaster and if that does not resolve the problem then the Troop committee chairman should be involved, and of course inform your parents anytime there is phyical violence toward you by another scout.

The BSA does not take this sort of behavior lightly and you need to know that they want you to be safe and to report any violence to a responsible adult.
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Postby Lynda J » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:06 am

Was this boy elected or appointed as PL? Where are the leaders when the pinching and kicking going on. Our patrols meet but there are adults in the room. This is where adult supervision should be very apparent.

I agree with Commish. This is something that you should go directly to the SM or ASM. Physical violence is not something that SPL should be dealing with.

But the main thing is stopping the physical assaults. And believe it or not that is exactly what is happening. This is assault.
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Postby diamondbackAPL » Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:08 pm

yeah ive talked to the spl and the scoutmaster knew about the kicking kid for about two years hes gotten3warnings and nothing has been done
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Postby ASM-142 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:38 am

If the SPL and the SM are not doing anything then this should be brought to the attention of the Committee
If it is not written down then it is not an official rule
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