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Aplying to become a merit badge counselor

Postby gatorguy65 » Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:47 pm

Several months ago I called the North Florida council BSA office to speak to the District representative about applying to become a merit badge counselor. When I called the BSA office, I was either put on hold, or never was connected to the local district rep., so I got frustrated and haven't pursued this in a while. About 4 or 5 years prior to this, I thought I was registered as a MB counselor, as I had a BSA registration card, but never received any further correspondence to this effect, nor were any scouts referred to me for MB counseling. Oh, and by the way I got my Eagle in about 1982. So, my question is this – is there a way to apply to become a MB counselor by applying online, or submitting the adult application and MB counselor information online, or by e-mail to the N. FL. Council BSA office? When I go to their website, there are no e-mails for the district representative (I live in Alachua County).
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Postby Scouting179 » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:37 am

MBC registration is handled by districts in the places I've been. I'm not surprised the DE blew you off, many people have trouble getting answers on anything out of them. National does not handle MBC registrations. I'm also not surprised no one was referred to you as kids prefer using MBCs that they know, generally MBCs from within their own troop. I've been on our district MBC list for years and have never had anyone outside our troop contact me. I suggest contacting a troop and having them run your MBC form through.
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Postby gatorguy65 » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:33 am

Thanks for the tip, I've also been through Wood Badge, and was a Brotherhood member in OA. So what the heck does a DE do anyway? Anyway, is there a way to check online, or by some other means to find out where there is a local troop? There is a contacts link on the Alachua District BSA page, and an e-mail address to the advancement chair. I think I e-mailed this person before, but I think I never got a response back. Thanks a bunch.
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Postby RWSmith » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:39 am

gatorguy415,

Welcome to the board.

The experience you relayed in your post really doesn't surprise me. In fact, I'm saddened to say, it's typical. IMHO, we, as an organization, do a SORRY job of re-capturing the talents of thousands of Eagles, just like you, who are, as in your case, at a point in their lives where they can afford a little time to honor the Eagle charge and give something back to the Scouting community. If you've been out of the loop for a while, things have changed (dramatically, and [mostly] for the better, I might add)... Two-deep leadership, Buddy System, Background Checks, required training, etc, etc, etc.

MBCs must be certified by the District or Council Advancement Committee. There are two ways you can go about this...

One, you register as an Adult Leader with a specific Unit (Troop, Crew, or even a Pack for that matter). I strongly suggest you check out two or three Troops close to home. Just look them up, drop in on a meeting (and observe), introduce yourself to the adults; but you want to get to know the Troop's Committee Chairman (CC)... state your credentials; state your intentions. Once you find one you like, ask to file an appl. and fee (about 10 bucks) with the CC to be on the Troop Committee. You'll be expected (or you should be) to complete, within one year, Basic Training (New Leader Essentials) and Troop Committee Challenge. You'll also be required to take Youth Protection training, which must be re-certified every two years. MBC training is a snap; but, it's very important. As a registered Committee Member, you'll be expected to participate with the Troop by sitting in on an occasional BOR. You may be expected to purchase and maintain a uniform. Once you've completed Youth Protection and MBC orientation, you can choose one or more MBs that you would like to teach, file an MBC application (local form). The Troop's CC or Advancement Chair can help you with that. Going this route gets you officially back involved in Scouting while imposing the minimum impact on your time.

The second route, is to get with your local District Advancement Chairman, and tell him/her what you want to do. You file the same application and are subject to the same background check; but, there's no fee, and no uniform is necessary. However, you'll still need to complete Youth Protection and MBC training. And, you'll need to file an MBC appl. (again, local form). Unfortunately, going this route, you don't really get tho know the local Scouters. But, I guess, if you're a Dentist and want to teach Dentistry, or are an Attorney and want to teach Law, this route might work well... especially if you were to visit a local Roundtable meeting once or twice a year, to get acquainted with the local volunteers.

In either case, the bottom line is getting to know the volunteers who are involved in Scouting at the local level. This may seem counter-productive, but it's a method with significant checks and balances that's in everybody's best interests, including yours.

I suggest you contact Rich Watkins (WatkinsRC@gru.com), who is your District's Advancement Chairman, tell him about you prior attempt, tell him about our conversation, and ask him for his guidance (and for the names and telephone numbers of the CCs of the three Troops closet to your home).

Let me know how it goes for you.

Disclaimer: I have no experience as a District Advancement Chair, so... I may not be completely on target; but, my guidance is based on my experience which was similar to yours.
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Postby Scouting179 » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:39 am

If this particular DE blows you off, call council, ask for the phone numbers and names of SMs in your area, and work with a troop.
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Postby RWSmith » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:05 pm

Reading between the lines, both Scouting179 and I are telling you the same thing... That is to say, bluntly, don't bother with the DE (paid professional), go through the Scouters (volunteers) at the local level. I suggested you contact Rich Watkins because he's a volunteer; and, because he's your District's Advancment Chair, he also (should) have a vested interest in adding you to his MBC pool. Also, I suggested working with the CCs because they sign adult apps, not SMs. SMs do, however, assign the MBC to the Scout (when thet choose to do so). Either way, Scouting179 and I are suggesting the same thing... get involved on the local level. Start with one Troop. Once you get registered as a Committee Member in a Troop, and get trained as an MBC, it'll be easy to put your name in the hat as an MBC for the District- or even Council-level, depending on what you intend to teach. Scouting179 is also right in that MBC rosters are handled on a unit-level 99.9% of the time, even though the approval of said roster will come through Rich. Good luck. E-mail Rich, give him your telephone number, get the names and phone numbers of both CCs and SMs for Troops near you. Press forward; you will be well received. Welcome back and good luck.
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Postby riverwalk » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:50 am

Hello gator, I was going to respond, and say to find your fellow Scouters in charge of this. The Professionals don't deal with such issues, though they should react and make sure you know your fellow volunteer contacts. Anyway, my point is that RW has provided an outstanding post that should be supportive.
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Postby gatorguy65 » Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:37 am

Well, I e-mailed Rich Watkins yesterday morning before going to work, and included my phone number, but so far I haven't heard back from him. I'm assuming the Alachua District BSA page is kept up to date with current e-mail addresses? If I don't hear back from him in a couple of days, It would be good if I had a phone number, but there are no phone numbers on the Alachua District BSA page.
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Postby JazerNorth » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:22 am

I know this electronic world is supposed to make things fast, but give some people some time. They have work, families, duties they need to perfrom. Waiting only a couple of days does not give anyone a chance to get back to you. Give them at a minimum of a week. After that, then you can start looking for other avenues.

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Postby riverwalk » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:06 pm

Keep in mind that a District website/page is usually operated by other Scouters, not the Staff, so allow time for people to check in with the site. In my main District, we have discussion forums. Yeah...neat idea, like these are. But, most Scouters don't know of them, and other registered users don't check in for the questions directed to them.

Bottom line is to find them. Phones, email, carrier pigeons all depend on the other party doing something so you get the response. Since you go to the same meetings they go to, extend that left hand (remember) and when you've got 'em, ask your questions, haha.
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