Life Leadership Project

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Life Leadership Project

Postby Heidi » Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:36 pm

My son is working on his Life rank and in the Boy Scout Handbook it says you can hold a leadership position for 6 months or do a leadership project. Has anyone ever done a leadership project for this rank? Can someone give me examples of what a leadership project would be? Our troop has never had anyone do this and they do not know what to expect.
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Postby RWSmith » Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:27 am

Heidi,

Welcome to the community. Please, make yourself right at home. Really. Don't be alarmed with the fact that I just moved your post over here to the "Ranks" forum. It's no big deal, really; but, you'll probably get more replies with your question posted in here.

I'll give you a couple of pointers. First, I'd suggest you go over to the Advancement page on meribadge.com and click on "Life." There, you'll find a virtual cornucopia of information, including the following:

4. While a Star Scout, take part in service projects totaling at least six hours of work. These projects must be approved by your Scoutmaster.

5. While a Star Scout, serve actively for six months in one or more of the troop positions of responsibility listed in requirement 5 for Star Scout (or carry out a Scoutmaster-assigned leadership project to help the troop).

The requirement to complete six hours of service is separate from the leadership role. Both are required. The first time I read it, I got confused with the fact that Req. 5 in Life refers back to Req. 5 in Star... but, then I realized it's to reference the list of leadership positions.
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Postby Sirch » Sun Sep 26, 2004 4:12 pm

she asked about the 6 months of leadership not service hours
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Postby Guneukitschik » Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:13 pm

RWSmith wrote:(or carry out a Scoutmaster-assigned leadership project to help the troop).


You are correct...the scout has the option of serving six months in a leadership position OR carry our a leadership project that is assigned/approved by the Scoutmaster.

Many large troops are unable to have a position available for every scout that needs one....that's where the leadership project usually comes into play. Many smaller size troops don't have enough scouts to fill all the positions, so often times the scouts fill 2 or 3 positions if necessary.
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Postby commish3 » Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:19 pm

Perhaps there is a different way to look at this.

Heidi,
The project is based less on what needs to be done and more on 'what does you scout need to impove his skills in, or what skills does he have that the scoutmaster could encourage him to apply?'.

For instance he could be made Grubmaster and introduse a new recipe each week, or give grocery shopping tips.

He could be made a Gamemaster and teach the PLC new games each month that they can choose to do with thier troop or patrol.

He could be asked to do a Boys life corner were he shares highlights each month from the new Boys' Life issue.


Guneukitschik

Maybe filling all the positions isn't the purpose of troop and patrol Positions of Responsibility? Small troops may not need all the positions because of their size. If the idea of youth leadership is to give scouts the oppostunity to learn and practice leadership skills and to apply the values of the Oath and Law in making decisions, then having one boy fill multiple roles probably isn't a good idea. We see thet few adults are capable of handling mutiple leadership roles at one time. Why would we hoist that responsibility on boys who are just learning? It would be like asking a boy to play first base and catch at the same time in the same inning of baseball.

As I understand it the Patrol Method is designed to allow everyone a single job so that each scout has a purpose to be there and realizes his absencce leaves a void in the team. It is not as much about filling offices as it is teaching and practicing leadership.

What happens with older scouts is they may not always be selected for a troop position by the newly elected SPL so the SM needs to design a personalized project with them to keep them involved and advancing.

Did I explain that okay?
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Postby Guneukitschik » Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:51 pm

I agree...
I perhaps worded that incorrectly... I've seen at least around here that the leadership position requirement usually is used by larger troops where the need is greater. Not that all scouts couldn't benefit from a specialized leadership position/program to help them learn and mature.

I agree that a scout shouldn't have more than one position, but if a troop doesn't have a regular quartermaster, and they want to rotate that position around each month I don't see anything wrong with that.

I like the ideas for grubmaster and gamemaster! I will be passing them on to my troop! Thanks.
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Postby RWSmith » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:58 am

Heidi,

I was sent the following e-mail and asked to post it...

Dear Sir: For some reason I cannot post to the net (i'm new and password won't work and I can't figure out yet how to contact webmaster). Would you please pass this on to the "bulletin board" for the scoutmaster's question at meritbadge.com (Heidi scout)? He (she?) asked about scoutmaster-assigned leadership projects. It may be of help.

About 7 or 8 years ago when my son became a new First Class scout, he found out that there would be no leadership positions available for months. (He already completed the required merit badges). He pondered this thing about a "scoutmaster-assigned leadership project". He spoke with the scoutmaster about his doing a leadership project to fulfill the requirement for Star. My son initiated the conversation with the scoutmaster and presented his idea on something that the troop needed. It was for a Troop Information Board for camporees, and our troop had just lost a bunch of points for not having one at the previous camporee. My son even made a cardboard model to "sell" his idea -- or risk waiting those many months to try for a position. (the troop had elections every six months) Besides the model, he made a list of materials which he ended up using as the basis for his budget for the project. The scoutmaster liked the idea, and gave him the assignment.

It took my son the entire four months to complete the project -- it was a huge board (4' x 4' opening up to 4' x 8') and displayed camp information (required at our camporees). It was made of 1/4" plywood in frames of 1/3's and quarter rounds. He used simple tools, not s skilled carpenter's work, but finished nicely with large painted troop number, painted BSA eagle, and many, many coats of polyurethane. He pre-posted rules for safety (weatherproofed), outdoor code, and other stuff that he researched. He spent quite a bit of time and attention to design of the board so that it would take foul weather, including brass hinges so that rust would not be a problem, and poly-something plastic with velcro to cover paper postings (while enabling access). He put in touches like big clips for patrol leaders (for menu, patrol duty assignments), space for a map, the chaplain's "prayer of the day", and leader's area. He wrapped the board in brown paper for his presentation to the troop. He first said a prayer that he wrote which asked for blessings for its use then unwrapped the board. One of the assistant scoutmasters told him it looked like something out of Boys Life!

Our son learned much from the project, including how to coordinate with others (patrol leaders, SPL and his staff, and troop leaders). His research of past camporee rules and point systems, camp safety, and even a little about troop organization helped him grow in leadership too. It helped not just the troop, but gave my son great training for skills he needed to acquire so that he could to do his big Eagle project that came a year later. The other boys also saw that my son worked well with them on something that the troop needed, and didn't just do the minimum. He had no problem getting elected to a position after that. This was one of those experiences where he he had to "earn respect" before he was accepted as a leader. Scoutmaster-assigned projects serve the needs of the troop, not to the community. Service serves the community.

Epilogue: The troop is still using the board. Since that time, I've seen the troop acquire picnic tables with beautifully decorated tops, patrol chow boxes, and new shelves for organizing camping gear.

As a side note, I was happy to get his huge thing off my dining room table (for months!), but happier that I let my son find his own way to get his leadership done for that rank. I hold dear those memories of how our son learned to put aside obstacles and meet challenges.

Yours in scouting,
Screech'n Owl
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