Woodwork

Safety, Salesmanship, Scholarship, Scouting Heritage, Scuba Diving, Sculpture, Shotgun Shooting, Skating, Small-Boat Sailing, Snow Sports, Soil & Water Conservation, Space Exploration, Sports, Stamp Collecting, Surveying, Textile, Theater, Traffic Safety, Truck Transportation, Veterinary Medicine, Water Sports, Weather, Whitewater, Wilderness Survival, Wood Carving, and Woodwork.

Moderators: Site Admin, Moderators

Woodwork

Postby Wild Owl » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:52 am

Do or should requirements 4,5 & 6 require separate projects? I have a Scout that has come to me wanting to use one project to meet all of the requirements.
Wild Owl
Scout
 
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:00 pm
Location: Macomb, Michigan

Postby cballman » Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:38 am

In my opinion you could combine req. 4 and 5. or 4 and 6 but you since you cannot add to or take away from the req. look at them and and see how each one is worded and then you should understand why you could combine only those that i mentioned above.
cballman
 

Postby deweylure » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:56 am

After reading the requirements they seem vague.. Its your call .


Personally I think these requirements need clarification and a rewrite. Most wood workers I know use power tools and the occasional hand tool.

Dewey
deweylure
Eagle
 
Posts: 386
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:23 pm
Location: DesPlaines Valley Council

Postby evmori » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:42 am

It's up to the counselor.
Ed Mori
1 Peter 4:10
evmori
Gold Palm
 
Posts: 1109
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:24 pm
Location: Greater Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA

Postby FrankJ » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:04 pm

A single project could easily cover all the requirements. It would be up to the counselor that all the requirements were met individually.

Speaking of old requirements, I wonder how many people under thirty have actually seen a brace which is a particular kind of hand drill(requirement 4). It kinda like requiring somebody to write a computer program using punch cards
Frank J.
Venturing Crew Adviser, Assistant Scout Master, Renegade Merit Badge Counselor
Owl-2 WB 92-49
Foothills District Atlanta Area Council
I never teach my pupils. I only attempt to provide the conditions in which they can learn.--Albert Einstein
FrankJ
Gold Palm
 
Posts: 1640
Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:25 am
Location: Atlanta Area Council Foothills District

Postby cballman » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:24 pm

I might be just a tad older than 30 but my son who is 16 has played with my brace and bits for years just as I did when I was a wee child. the old hand tools are becoming a lost art but still work very functionaly with wood. sometimes when you combine the old with the new you will learn more about how and why the new power tools were invented. just the way I beleive that we can keep up the lost arts in the world today.
cballman
 

Postby FrankJ » Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:43 pm

Amen Charlie.
Frank J.
Venturing Crew Adviser, Assistant Scout Master, Renegade Merit Badge Counselor
Owl-2 WB 92-49
Foothills District Atlanta Area Council
I never teach my pupils. I only attempt to provide the conditions in which they can learn.--Albert Einstein
FrankJ
Gold Palm
 
Posts: 1640
Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:25 am
Location: Atlanta Area Council Foothills District

Postby deweylure » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:00 pm

I agree about younger people not seeing a brace. the only place I have seen a new one is in the Lee Valley catalog. I have my grandfathers brace and some bits.

My son is starting the meritbadge. He is pretty good on a wood lathe. It will be a challenge seeing him use some of the tools.

A word of caution to all ,If you use an old tool make sure it is in good shape. dull bits and blades cause people to force the tool which can cause you to loose control.

Dewey
deweylure
Eagle
 
Posts: 386
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:23 pm
Location: DesPlaines Valley Council

Postby Wild Owl » Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:40 pm

Thanks for all of the feedback. I personally do not own a brace, but have used my father's and grandfather's. Old tools are a lost art. A well tuned plane sounds much sweeter that a power sander.

BTW: I still have my punch cards from FORTRAN class.
Wild Owl
Scout
 
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:00 pm
Location: Macomb, Michigan

Postby WVBeaver05 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:09 pm

I too am a bit over 30 and remember well the use of a brace and bit in Jr. High shop class as well as several hand saws. In that day it was required that you complete a project with only hand tools before you could move on to the power tools that we had in the shop.

And, I have my FORTRAN (and other languages) punched cards as well. When I teach graduate IS courses and explain how the process for developing programs used to work, the looks on the students faces are priceless!! The same should be true of woodworking since most of the kids that I know grew up with portable drills, etc.

YiS
Wayne

Scoutmaster Troop34
Roundtable Commissioner
Eagle Scout - 1973
Wood Badge Beaver - 2005
WVBeaver05
Bronze Palm
 
Posts: 583
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:17 am
Location: Buckskin Council - WV


Return to Merit Badges -- S-Z

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests