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Eagle project admendment

Postby REDSETTER » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:32 am

My son is currently working on his eagle project. He planned to build 55 birdhouses and place them in a local park. He built and placed the 55 birdhouses as planned. A week after placing them a few were stolen or vandalized in the park. He is now being told he has to file an admendment to his eagle project, stating he did not provide the 55 original birhouses he planned. So, I have two questions. What is an admendment? Why would he have to file one since he can not monitor park security 24-7?
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Postby stevejb68 » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:36 am

An admendment? I never heard of such a thing for something like this.
As far as his project, it seems to me he completed his project. Just because some houses were stolen he should not be penalized. He did what he set out to do. Who said he needs to make an admendment?
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Admendment request

Postby REDSETTER » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:40 am

The advancement chair from the eagle board said he needs to file the admendment.
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What?

Postby riverwalk » Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:42 am

Hmmm, more discussion, and more folks need to get in on this. His documentation of his Project will prove the number present. What vandals do would not detract from the Eagle candidate, merely show that others out there need Scouting. That's IMHO.
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Postby PaulSWolf » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:14 pm

All he needs to do is include a statement in the write-up that under his direction, 55 birdhouses were built and installed as planned. and then a statement that subsequent to the project being completed, some of the birdhouses were stolen by vandals. PERIOD - End of "amendment". Anything further is excessive.
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Postby FrankJ » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:44 pm

Fact is he did provide 55 bird houses. The follow up documentation should include that there were vandalized. It could also be discussed in the board of review. That fact that they were vandlized doesn't effect the leadership qualities used or the scope of the project anymore than if a tornado wiped out the entire project.

An ammendment in my mind would be for something that changed the original scope of the project & even that could be dealt with at the BOR which after all has the final approval for the project was carried out satifactorily.
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Postby lifescoutforlife » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:59 pm

Sorry to hear this happened to your son, hope everything works out well for him.
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Postby jr56 » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:40 pm

There is a place in the eagle project workbook to write any changes that occured during the execution of the project. Document it there.
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Postby mhjacobson » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:47 pm

What happened to his Eagle Project Mentor. This person should have been very aware of the situation and should be in the position to ensure that the scout gets credit for what he did, and not what is present after the vandalism. Sounds like a failure of leadership, rather than a failure of the scout!
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Postby evmori » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:13 pm

jr56 wrote:There is a place in the eagle project workbook to write any changes that occured during the execution of the project. Document it there.


There were no changes during the execution of his project. It was completed. The houses were vandalized after they were placed. That is not the fault of the Scout.

Paul has the best idea.
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Postby wagionvigil » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:18 pm

He finished the Project it was done. What happens after that is a mute point.
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Postby mhjacobson » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:53 am

Ed:

In the "changes" section of the Eagle Project, the vandalism should be notated. This section is not only used to indicate where there were changes to the project during its implementation, but any changes to the project that may have occurred between the completion of the project and the time that the project is approved. This will avoid any 'the number of houses are not present' comments and potential problems.
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Postby evmori » Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:46 am

mhjacobson,

I disagree. There were no changes to the project. The project was completed THEN the vandalism occurred. Actually, it doesn't even need to be noted but mentioning it does no harm.
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Postby jr56 » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:54 pm

You are right Ed, it doesn't have to be reported, but as you say, if he chooses to do so, it certainly wouldn't hurt.
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Postby Scouting179 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:32 pm

Paul Wolf is precisely right. He did the project as approved. If the benefitting organization signed off on it, all he has to do is document what occurred in his write up in the changes section. It is good practice to check on the project shortly afterwards to ensure the work was satisfactory (like are the benches still sturdy after one week?), but he is not responsible for its long term care, vandalism, etc.


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