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Postby ccjj » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:24 pm

I have a question...
I had a Scout lMonday night, show me his Eagle Scout application and it has a place on it for the date he joined Boy Scouts. Where can I get the exact date? Do they want the date he earned Scout? I called the registrar at Council, and she doesn't know what they want either.
I know that he joined the troop in the fall, but I am not sure of the exact date. Can someone help with this?

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Postby FrankJ » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:49 am

I would think month & year would be sufficient. It is not like there is a time requirement for rank. Your troop advancement chair might have if you use scout net or troop master.
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Postby Mrw » Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:41 am

We did not have specific dates for my sons and just used the month and year we knew they joined with a look at an old calendar to guess for the date - knowing the troop meeting schedule and when the cross-over was most likely to have been.
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Postby riverwalk » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:34 pm

Of course such information is somewhere, because Apps have dates, and Councils/Districts know dates of their Joining nights. Retrieving same isn't always easy, haha. But like they've said, an exact date isn't going to be crucial. Anyone that got hung up on that, could stand a review of what their mission is.
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Postby wagionvigil » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:44 pm

The individual advancement report that you can get from your service center should have all that information on it. Dates of Each rank and dates of each MB.
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Postby jhawk » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:14 pm

Did the boy cross over from Webelos at a Blue and Gold banquet by any chance? The month and year that was would work if he did that. In any case, the council should have the date he submitted his Boy Scout application to join. If you can't find it, I personally would just date it the month before he earned the Scout badge. That is probably pretty accurate.
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Postby Mrw » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:19 pm

wagionvigil wrote:The individual advancement report that you can get from your service center should have all that information on it. Dates of Each rank and dates of each MB.


For some reason almost none of our scouts' advancement records from Council show a date for the Scout badge, although as Advancement Chair, I know I put them on the reports.

We just started using Troopmaster and it did not accept any of the dates for rank badges for these boys because of that. I had to spend a couple hours updating all the records by hand instaed of just being able to import the data.
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Postby wagionvigil » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:21 pm

There should be a Joined Date on the records at the Service Center. :roll:
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Postby Mrw » Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:25 pm

Not sure I have the patience to try to get it un-earthed though!
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Postby scoutaholic » Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:27 pm

wagionvigil wrote:The individual advancement report that you can get from your service center should have all that information on it. Dates of Each rank and dates of each MB.


There is no such thing as and 'individual advancement report' at our council service center. If you ask the advancement people at the council office for advancement info on a boy, they will point to the file cabinet and say 'you can look through his troop records'. They have filed all the advancement reports as they were turned in from the troop. If the troop filled out the report correctly, and turned it in when they bought the awards, the info should be in the file.
I have never looked for a 'joining date' at the council office. I don't know if they know how to find that.
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Postby ASM-142 » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:45 pm

The joining date is the date that the Boy Scout Application was completed and turned in.

This should be on file somewhere within the troop or at council.
If it is not written down then it is not an official rule
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Postby ccjj » Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:56 pm

Thanks for all the replies.

I got his ScoutNet printout, but it doesn't have the date he joined the troop. Our troop was a new one that fall, and the paperwork sat on the DE's desk for quite a while before it was actually processed.

I have a copy of his Boy Scout application, but again, it was dated and then sat on the DE's desk for a while. I think we will just pick a date in the fall, or just before his Scout rank date.

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Postby RWSmith » Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:35 pm

ccjj wrote:I have a copy of his Boy Scout application, but again, it was dated and then sat on the DE's desk for a while. I think we will just pick a date in the fall, or just before his Scout rank date.


If you have a signed and dated copy of the Scout's application, I'd use the date the application was signed, regardless how long it sat on somebody's desk. If you're concerned that there may be a discrepancy with the date, I'd get with the SM and CC... have them both make an earnest decision on a date; have one or both of them write it on your copy of the appl. and initial it. I'm inclined to believe their decision would be completely ethical and final. Does this sound like what you're thinking?
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Postby Scouting179 » Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:11 pm

Your council could find this out and if your Troop uses Troopmaster, it'd be in their if the person making your Troopmaster entries was on the ball.
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Postby Lynda J » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:29 am

If his application was turned in to the Council the date the SM signed the application is the date the boy entered your unit. DOesn't matter how long it sat on some DE's desk. You have a copy of the application. YOu could also try to find your back recharter paper work and see when he was first listed on the charter. If his name shown up on a charter say in 2000 then this would show that he was registered them. Figure he probable joined at the end of school or when school started. That would give you a 1999 entry date.
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Postby evmori » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:42 am

scoutaholic wrote:
wagionvigil wrote:The individual advancement report that you can get from your service center should have all that information on it. Dates of Each rank and dates of each MB.


There is no such thing as and 'individual advancement report' at our council service center. If you ask the advancement people at the council office for advancement info on a boy, they will point to the file cabinet and say 'you can look through his troop records'. They have filed all the advancement reports as they were turned in from the troop. If the troop filled out the report correctly, and turned it in when they bought the awards, the info should be in the file.
I have never looked for a 'joining date' at the council office. I don't know if they know how to find that.


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Postby Lynda J » Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:38 pm

You can get these forms right here at meritbadge.com. Go to the forms listing on the opening page.
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