Any advace

[bearpatrolleaderinctown]

I am a Scout about to get tenderfoot and i am 14 about to turn 15 and i want to get atleast Life Scout what can i do to get first class fast. Our troop leadeer wants us to complete alot of the requirements at camp but most of our members dont want to go since they cannot do the rifle, shotgun, and archery merit badges since you have to be atleast second class what can i do to encourage them to go

[jr56]

You can complete any requirements anytime you want. When you are ready to be tested, go to whoever is designated in your troop to sign off requirements and show your stuff. You didn't say if your troop has regular monthly campouts, if it does, those are great times to finish requirements.
If your troop doesn't, encourage your patrol to organize an outing to give you, and hopefully some fellow scouts and opportunity to work on rank advancement, good luck.

[bearpatrolleaderinctown]

i now but all that i have left for tenderfoot and they have to have partners and i am the only one who wnats to get it done so i can start working on oters and merit badges but teh ones who are 11 and twelvee say they want to get egale but they have 5 or 6 more years left. We have a campout eveery other month and our troop is new and we only have one patrol

[ASM-142]

i now but all that i have left for tenderfoot and they have to have partners and i am the only one who wnats to get it done so i can start working on oters and merit badges but teh ones who are 11 and twelvee say they want to get egale but they have 5 or 6 more years left. We have a campout eveery other month and our troop is new and we only have one patrol

If you camp every other month there should nothing to hold you up from getting Tenderfoot now. What to you need a partner to complete?

[jr56]

Sounds great, volunteer to organize a patrol activity-outing, make sure you will have the oppotunity to get done what you need to do. Have a nice Christmas.

[bearpatrolleaderinctown]

to do requirement 6
-Demenstratehow to raise, lower, and fold a flag

[Mrw]

There should be no reason to need to go camping to get that one done.

And you may be new in a new troop, but if you want to make Eagle - you too have time. You do need to spend the time on your own to work on the merit badges to make it happen.

If you spend some of your time over the next week or two while you are out of school reading your scout book and learning the knots and such that are in there, you should be able to advance through the Tenderfoot to First Class ranks fairly quickly and be on you way to greatness.

[bearpatrolleaderinctown]

thanx MRW
ive been spending my study hall period at school reading it but what i have left i have to do with a partner and our meetings are at night about 7 or 9 and i want to have it completed before my bday and a compout is the only time

[Nuts4Scouts]

Nope, a campout is not the only time. Talk to your SPL or your SM, or both, & let them know what you would like to get done & when. Maybe one of them could meet you at an available, outside flagpole (school, park, city hall, etc) some Saturday afternoon (or during Christmas break) & raise & lower the flag with you.

You could even set it up & then invite the rest of your patrol. If some come - great! They can get the requirement signed off too. If it is only you, then oh well, you will at least be able to get it signed off.

[WVBeaver05]

Nuts4Scouts is right. The Tenderfoot requirement is: Demonstrate how to display, raise, lower, and fold the American flag

This is distinctly different from the Second Class requirement: Participate in a flag ceremony for your school, religious institution, chartered organization, community, or troop activity.

The Tenderfoot one could be done anytime. The person who will be signing you off can assist with raising, lowering, and folding (they take the passive part in each), or you can bring your own partner -- doesn't have to be a Scout.

While you are at it, don't ever forget that you can work or requirements for Tenderfoot, Second Class, and First Class at the same time.

YiS

[WVBeaver05]

... Our troop leadeer wants us to complete alot of the requirements at camp but most of our members dont want to go since they cannot do the rifle, shotgun, and archery merit badges since you have to be atleast second class what can i do to encourage them to go

Are you saying that if the rest don't go, you won't be able to go?

Summer camp is a great place!! You can get a lot of Tenderfoot through First Class requirements completed there. However, as others have said, it certainly isn't the only place. Get them when you can.

In my opinion, if you aren't Second Class you should be working on rank requirements rather than Merit Badges anyway. The benefit of summer camp isn't any single class, Merit Badge, etc. -- it is the entire experience. That's what the others should be looking at, not whether they can take these 3 Merit Badges.

If they still aren't interested after someone describes the entire camp experience, you can still look into attending with another Troop. I don't know about your Council, but ours will help arrange things like that so at least you can go.

And when you get back, make sure you tell them all the FUN that you had.

YiS

[bearpatrolleaderinctown]

it is winter camp there is nothing but merit badges offered at our council winter camp except for twilight activities and they also revolve around merit badges.

[WVBeaver05]

it is winter camp there is nothing but merit badges offered at our council winter camp except for twilight activities and they also revolve around merit badges.

Hmmm. That puts a little different spin on it.

In places where winter camping means COLD, it is sometimes hard to get the younger Scouts to go (at least the first time). They expect to be cold the whole weekend and don't think that will be much fun. BEing PREPARED will usually take care of the cold and after doing it once most will want to come back (if for not other reason than saying that they were able to camp in ... snow and at ... temperature - kind of bragging rights).

Since they are doing the shooting Merit Badges it probably isn't going to be that cold or snowy where you are. Still, knowing what to expect and preparing will help Scouts be comfortable going. Now the big problem. If the camp only centers around Merit Badges and the younger Scouts can't participate, then someone needs to do something else.

Perhaps you (as the Patrol Leader?) need to help them plan some activities that your Patrol can do instead of the Merit Badges. If you have a Troop Instructor or Troop Guide, they can help you plan it. If not, your SM or ASM should be able to. I would work on the things that lead to rank advancement of Tenderfoot through First Class. Many of those requirements require camping so I would focus on them. Getting information about what is available at the Council camp site will be helpful.

If you have a good plan for activities you should be more successful in getting the other Scouts in your Patrol interested in going.

Good luck with it.

YiS

[deweylure]

Why cant they do the shooting MB's. There is no official policy that denies a scout the ability to do these at camp. No age.size or rank requirement.
The only thing holding you back is if you physically can not handle the equipment safely. Worst is you get a partial. Another option is to go to the free time shoots at camp

As others have said you cna complete rank requirements at any time except for thos specifically requiring the out doors.

You cna get to fiest class in a year and it is encouraged by BSA. Work on your MB's and ranlk simutaneously.

Dewey

[John F.]

Some states have an age requirement for shooting guns. In New York you have to be at least 12 years old to shoot a rifle and "I think" it is 13 for shotgun.

A young scout should still go on these campouts and work with the SM, on the scout rank advancements.

[PPC_NYLT]

A young scout should still go on these campouts and work with the SM, on the scout rank advancements.

It would probably be more beneficial to the scout if he worked on rank advancements with the scout masters youth designee. In my troop the SM, SPL, ASPLs or JASMs can sign the rank advancement and TG's and SI's work on the advancements with the boys.

[Mrw]

A young scout should still go on these campouts and work with the SM, on the scout rank advancements.

It would probably be more beneficial to the scout if he worked on rank advancements with the scout masters youth designee. In my troop the SM, SPL, ASPLs or JASMs can sign the rank advancement and TG's and SI's work on the advancements with the boys.

Yes, but this is a small, new, one patrol troop and so working with the SM or ASM may be the best or only option in this case.

[PPC_NYLT]

oops...i didn't realize the situation of the troop (or i just over looked it in a prior post). in this case, it does appear that working with the SM/ASM is the best option.

[Lynda J]

When school starts back go to your principle and offer to raise and loser the flag for a few days. Get a friend to help you. If your school donesn't have a flag them see if your Charter Org does and do the same thing there.
I don't know of any school leader that wouldn't help.

This requirement is one of the easiest to do.

You should be able to get to Eagle. Kevin came into the troop from Cubs.
Within a year of crossing over he had 1st class. He is 13 and will probably be Eagle sometime just after the first of the y ear.

As far as winter camp being mostly badges. Well you have to have badges to make Star, Life, and Eagle. So go for it. Earn those badges, focus on Eagle required.