outfoxed86 wrote:Nuts4Scouts wrote:
Actually, there is a problem. The PLC does not have the authority, in a BSA program, to set any kind of limits on how, when, or number of merit badges a Scout earns.
oh well it works for us My boys run our troop and do a darn good job of it.
that isnt up to you to do. just like with the SMC and all that stuff (in the problems forum), you CANNOT add to requirements by limiting them to how many MB's they can do. do you limit them to how many they can earn a month through out the year??? it doesnt matter if it works, it is against the "Rules".
Nuts4Scouts wrote:
You are saying that a Webelos looking at Troops should read (& understand?) their bylaws before considering joining that Troop. Do you give each Webelos visiting your Troop a copy of your bylaws? Do you point out & explain to these inexperienced Cub Scout families where your Boy Scout Troop bylaws bypass, or change, those of the BSA? You are saying that a Webelos looking at Troops should read (& understand?) their bylaws before considering joining that Troop. Do you explain why you feel your version of a BSA program is better than the actual BSA program? If you do all of that, and they still join your Troop, then I agree with you "there's no problem".
you really think we give bylaws to webeols come on . we do give a copy to every parent and they have a choice to join us or not .
NO, you come on. THere is absolutely no reason they shouldn't have a copy. The parents aren't the ones who are going to be in the program for the next 7yrs. the webloes (soon to a part of your troop) are. most cub parents dont understand how the program runs. i would think that a scout-weblos explanation would work better than trying to tell some of the parents how its done
Nuts4Scouts wrote:
The money comes in because the Scout & his family have paid for the camp. How the Scout makes use of the camps resources is up to the Scout, not the Troop.
Doing just meritbadges isn't using all the camps resources. we encource FUN
as stated before, there are only certain times that a scout can work on his MB's (the time that a councelor will sign off). if a boy doesnt like swimming, then why make him go if he wants to try to finish up a MB? thats not your choice, its his!!!
Nuts4Scouts wrote:
How does your District go about "proving" that a potential Merit Badge Counselor knows his subject? Are they asked to fly a plane, fix a car, make a wiring diagram, write a newspaper article, or describe how a nuclear reactor works? I really doubt it. The only thing that BSA asks for is a brief explanation, on the application, of why they feel they can be a counselor for that badge. I have never heard of any volunteer being told they could not be a Counselor for the Merit Badge they requested. I have heard of a Troop's SM signing up as Merit Badge Counselor for just about every MB out there simply to make it more convenient.
You made this statement just to argue. The explanation is the proving. We have turned away people that weren't qualified. and an SM signing up for every merit badge is insane who would allow that.
my dad is signed up for 10 or so mb's. all he had to do was write on the application that he either A. had experience, or B. he works in the field. that was satisfactory. there is nothing that says a counsilor must prove himself to the district, thats not their place, and nor is it their right!!!
as far as the SM goes, who is gonna stop him? the CC? why on earth would he do that. the SM is proving how committed he is, and how willing he is to make a sacrafice for his scouts.
Nuts4Scouts wrote:
As for Summer Camp Merit Badges, most of what they cover at Summer Camp is the hands on kind of thing. The tecnical stuff is supposed to be done before or after camp with a regular MB Counselor.[/b]
yes but I dont think kids get everything out of a badge when their doing 10 at a time
they get the same exact thing outta doing ten or doing one. they have to do the SAME EXACT REQUIREMENTS. they dont get a break b/c they are doing 10, they do the same thing as everyone else!!
hacimsaalk wrote:
you figure you go to a good camp. for 5 days (out of the 7) you do MB's. going over a MB for 5 days in a row gets absolutely boring. i could see maybe a day or two for each mb, not much more than that. unfortunately, since the troop isnt paying, this is once agains the boy decision.
What does money have to do with it? If the PLC has set the bylaws for the troop and everyone knows them before they join there's no problem.
money has everything to do with it. lets just say you go and buy a tent for youself to use at the next camping trip. when you show up, the PLC has a meeting with you and tells you that they wont let you use it, rather they are giving it to another scout, who will do with it what he wants, and if he decides to keep it, hes going to.
now, how would you feel about that??
another thing- you said "If the PLC has set the bylaws for the troop and everyone knows them before they join there's no problem." but in your next post you said "we do give a copy to every parent and they have a choice to join us or not ." how does it work out that everyone knows the bylaws before joining, if you give them to their parents???? it doesnt. these kids have no clue what they agreed to. this is a horrible way to do things. their first year of camp, they're gonna try to go in there gung-ho only to find out what the PLC said the "had" to do. real honest
what is so wrong with people earning a lot of MB's. the more MB's a scout earns, the sooner he can get his Eagle. the percentage of people getting eagle after 16, goes down significantly b/c of school, cars, can girls
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