DUES

[Lynda J]

Much of the equipment our troop has is older stuff. Some as old as 30 years. We are a little at a time replaceing it with newer safer stuff.

When you have to replace the propane where does the money come from to do that. When a tent gets damaged where does the money come from for that. When globes and mantels on the lanterns get broken where does the money come from for that.
The dues the boys pay each year cover these expenses.
Our next Court of Honor will cost us in the range of $75.00 for badges.
It cost money to run a troop. In all the years I have worked with Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts I have never had a parent complain about dues.


Kevin is in soccer and it cost me well over $200 a season. Not a year.
So at $60 a year it is a pretty good deal.

[ICanCanoeCanU]

Yup and everyone in scouts is welcome to participate. It's not about being good enough, fast enough or anything else like in sports!

Our troop does pretty much what others had said. We collect $40.00 at the time of charter renewal or in September for any new scouts. We have various fundraisers some of which go directly into the troop account and some that go into troop and individual scout accounts. Scout accounts can be used for summer camp/campouts or equipment proven to be needed for camping. What goes into the troop account is used for updating equipment, training costs for both youth and adults, badges, ranks, and every new scout to our troop receives the scout handbook and neckerchief on us. Sometimes money is used to supplement activities the scouts want to do such as whitewater rafting or long distance trips. Anything money is spent on is approved by the SPL and the committee. Oh yeah, and we collect $10.00 per campout from each scout going on campout. This is used for food and what's left goes into the pot for equipment.

I think the costs for scouting is well worth every penny and one of the cheaper programs available for our youth!

[Lynda J]

We do the same thing on food. For this Camporee we charged $16.00.
$4.00 was the registration fee for the camp. The remainder went to buy food and the left over goes into the troop account.

[wagionvigil]

Duse go fro advancement et. We charge for each campout usually around 10.00 and when we go to camp we ask each boy to bring something for the campsite cooler. WE get a lot of bottled water. Sports drink etc. Our Popcorn sale helps some and we usually do a Hoagie or a pizza sale also.

[Chief J]

As has been discussed in prior posts. The $50.00 annual dues covers registration, boys life and insurance. Balance goes to Troop fund. The $1.00 a week is to help teach responsibility, and it also goes into the Troop fund to cover equipment, awards, troop administration (mailing of newsletters, etc). Being a newer troop, we are still acquiring camping equipment.

We usually charge scouts $10.00 for each campout. If we spend less than that on food, fees, etc., it is held in the Troop fund. If we spend more than that, then the Troop fund picks up the overage. Most overage is during winter months when we rent cabin facilities for our outings.

One of the things that our Troop funds covers are Scholoarships for Scouts to attend our Council Llevel JLT Training ($135.00 per Scout) and to participate in the University of Scouting Training.

On a side note, our leaders all must pay their $10.00 registration fees and any fees that are required for training. To date, all leaders do this and none have complained. Additionally, when our leaders attend summer camp, we divide the leaders cost equally amongst all leaders attending so that no leader attends for free. This helps lower the cost by $10-$20 per leader.

Chief J

Chief J

[wagionvigil]

Camps give you your two deep leadership and then another adult as your numbers increase. Too many adults at any camp out especially summer camp is not good. Why do you think the BSA limits adults at jamborees and NOAC?

[ICanCanoeCanU]

I have to say that here in NY in the Adirondacks, we have a summer camp that doesn't even allow the adult leadership in for free. Every adult is $100.00 and this is hard to ask adults willing to volunteer a week of their time and efforts. Sadly, we've been attending another councils camp outside of our own for the last few years.

I Like you point about too many adults on campouts as well! I'm in total agreement with you on that one.

[wagionvigil]

AS Far as I know Councils are required to allow two deep leadership at no cost

[Lynda J]

Our Council charges leaders for summer camp. It is a greatly reduced fee but we do have to pay. It covers food is about all.
But it is a good point that they require two deep leadership and then charge for complying.

[Beagle Scout]

" Too many adults at any camp out especially summer camp is not good."

Depends. We go with a raft of adults and usually works out well. This past summer one of our adults ran the archery range, another taught CPR, one spent the week working at the rifle range and a couple more took Life Guard.

The biggest problem with having adults is if the adults can't forget that they aren't there to be parents.

[Beagle Scout]

I thought that I had replied to this thread before. I must have clicked the wrong button.

We have a troop fee of $50. We pay national registration, Boys Life and insurance from that payment. We spend about $45 per Scout per year on badges, pins and awards. The shortfall is made up by popcorn sales.

We also collect small payments to cover the expense of renting campsites for each campout. The patrols take care of their own food.

I'd like to see the fees increased to about $100 a year and stop collecting the little $5 and $10 payments for campouts.

[Rick Tyler]

" Too many adults at any camp out especially summer camp is not good."

Depends. We go with a raft of adults and usually works out well. This past summer one of our adults ran the archery range, another taught CPR, one spent the week working at the rifle range and a couple more took Life Guard.

The biggest problem with having adults is if the adults can't forget that they aren't there to be parents.

There is no such thing as too many adult leaders. Any number of mommies and daddies is too many.

I spent summer camp repairing camp sailboats, and when a counselor got injured, I taught sailing. Another adult helped supervise the waterfront when the waterfront director was injured (it was tough week for the staff). Four other adult leaders helped the Asst. Ranger roof the new COPE shed. Another helped at the rifle range. The camp had no counselor for Fishing MB, so another ASM and I taught fishing. We kept ourselves busy and out of the way of the boys. We were very popular with camp staff, too.

[evmori]

Too many adults? Can't happen!

One year at summer camp, the staff bus flipped over & 11 staff members were seriously hurt. The adults in camp stepped up to the plate & filled in where needed. The result was a successful summer camp week!

Too many adults? Can't happen!

[Lynda J]

I forgot about one other thing that dues help pay for. Tomorrow one of our boys will be awarded his Eagle. The troop pays for the presentation including food.

On the to many adults. I both agree and disagree. If you have adults that only want to sit and talk to each other you can have to many. If you have adults that role up their shirt sleeves and pitch in you can't have to many.

[Beagle Scout]

" If you have adults that only want to sit and talk to each other you can have to many."

Don't know about that. That's far better than the adults who follow their kids from class to class.

[ICanCanoeCanU]

What about the parents that go to summer camp (not in a leadership role) because it's like a vacation and they don't have to be apart from their young? Believe me, I've heard it said!

[Rick Tyler]

What about the parents that go to summer camp (not in a leadership role) because it's like a vacation and they don't have to be apart from their young? Believe me, I've heard it said!

Our rule was that only registered, trained leaders could sleep in camp. Mommies and daddies could visit, but not stay. It worked.

[Beagle Scout]

"Our rule was that only registered, trained leaders could sleep in camp. Mommies and daddies could visit, but not stay. It worked."

Good idea but I don't know if it would work for us. "Thanks for driving for five hours to get here. Now go away."

[wagionvigil]

How do they stay in a council operated camp without Medicals and Clearances?

[Beagle Scout]

"How do they stay in a council operated camp without Medicals and Clearances?"

Medical is easy, they go to a doctor and get a physical. Clearances? I'm guessing that you don't mean TS/SCI and the like. I've never heard anything about clearances for camp before.