Military ribbon for Eagle

[spl08]

Does anybody know what the status is on a military ribbon for Eagle scouts? I read something saying that they were thinking of making one that represents Eagle or the girl scout award (obviously depending on the gender).

[riverwalk]

This comes up now and then. I don't know any official plan for that. We do know that some of these honors (including Eagle rank) will qualify a Service member for a higher rating when they start out in the Military.

More than likely, if they continue serving community (giving back) in volunteer roles, they'll qualify for the Military award. That being the Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal (I think is correct).

[John F.]

Yes, that is the correct name (Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal). One can earn this medal once every four years.

[ThunderingWind]

Yes, that is the correct name (Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal). One can earn this medal once every four years.

And the standards are tough.

[riverwalk]

OK that made me curious. Do they ever recognize Scouters with it?

[John F.]

I received my first one for working with the cub scouts and my local community t-ball team. (I was the coach) The other two, for being involved with the boy scouts.




Here are the requirements for military personal to received the medal.




a. The Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal (MOVSM) was established by Executive Order 12830, 9 January 1993. It may be awarded to members of the Armed Forces of the United States and their Reserve Components, who subsequent to 31 December 1992, perform outstanding volunteer community service of a sustained direct and consequential nature.

b. To qualify for award of the MOVSM a service members volunteer service must meet the following requirements:

(1) Be to the civilian community, to include the military family community.

(2) Be significant in nature and produce tangible results.

(3) Reflect favorably on the Military Service and the Department of Defense.

(4) Be of a sustained and direct nature.

c. While there is no specific time period to qualify for the MOVSM (for example, 500 hours of community service within 24 calendar months), approval authorities shall ensure the service to be honored merits the special recognition afforded by this medal. The MOVSM is intended to recognize exceptional community support over time and not a single act or achievement. Further, it is intended to honor direct support of community activities. For the purpose of this award, attending membership meetings or social events of a community service group is not considered qualifying service, while manning a community crisis action telephone line is considered qualifying service

d. Approval authority for award of the MOVSM will be commanders (overseas and conus) serving in the rank of brigadier general or higher and colonel level commanders who exercise general court-martial authority. Before the recommendation is forwarded to the award approval authority, the recommended must certify that the service member meets the eligibility criteria for award of the MOVSM. Substantiating documentation, such as record of hours contributed, letters or certificates from activity supervisors, or other proof of the service member's volunteer services may be attached as enclosures to the recommendation.

[ThunderingWind]

Here are the requirements for military personal to received the medal.

a. The Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal (MOVSM) was established by Executive Order 12830, 9 January 1993. It may be awarded to members of the Armed Forces of the United States and their Reserve Components, who subsequent to 31 December 1992, perform outstanding volunteer community service of a sustained direct and consequential nature.

b. To qualify for award of the MOVSM a service members volunteer service must meet the following requirements:

(1) Be to the civilian community, to include the military family community.

(2) Be significant in nature and produce tangible results.

(3) Reflect favorably on the Military Service and the Department of Defense.

(4) Be of a sustained and direct nature.

c. While there is no specific time period to qualify for the MOVSM (for example, 500 hours of community service within 24 calendar months), approval authorities shall ensure the service to be honored merits the special recognition afforded by this medal. The MOVSM is intended to recognize exceptional community support over time and not a single act or achievement. Further, it is intended to honor direct support of community activities. For the purpose of this award, attending membership meetings or social events of a community service group is not considered qualifying service, while manning a community crisis action telephone line is considered qualifying service

d. Approval authority for award of the MOVSM will be commanders (overseas and conus) serving in the rank of brigadier general or higher and colonel level commanders who exercise general court-martial authority. Before the recommendation is forwarded to the award approval authority, the recommended must certify that the service member meets the eligibility criteria for award of the MOVSM. Substantiating documentation, such as record of hours contributed, letters or certificates from activity supervisors, or other proof of the service member's volunteer services may be attached as enclosures to the recommendation.

John: Thank you for posting the results. Unfortnately, all the commands in which I have served and my wife has served, the T-ball and Scouts would not have cut it.

If you would have served on the Board of Directors for the United Way or developed an after school program that helped one entire school districts low income children go from failing the national reading exam to be the top in the nation, then you might have been approved.

Like all other awards in the military, there are still those who like to control who gets the prize from the box. During Desert Shield/Storm there was memo that stated only E-7 and above for Enlisted and O-4 and above would get the Bronze Star for Battle action, all other lower ranks would get Army Commendation Medals (ARCOM) or Army Achivement Medals (AAM) if they did not already have the ARCOM.

[spl08]

Thank you all for your replies! However this medal though that you've been talking about only recognizes that a person has done volunteer work. What I'm wondering is if they're planning on making a ribbon the specifically recognizes the Eagle or Gold Award. In other words, some military service person could look at another service member and say "Hey! You're an Eagle Scout/You got your gold award! So did I!"

[RWSmith]

Not gonna happen.

[spl08]

Not gonna happen.

http://www.mninter.net/~blkeagle/movsm.htm

[smtroop168]

I received the MOVSS medal for my work with scouting (Web II Leader, SM, District Chairman) and also wear the applicable knot on my uniform. It's a "controlled" knot so you have to get additional ones for your uniforms from National.

I agree that the services will not have a ribbon for military uniforms for Eagle Scout. Unfortunately, our "friends" at the ACLU would probably file a lawsuit about the military support of the BSA.

Have a great Navy Day!
smtroop168
Captain, US Navy Retired.

[spl08]

...Captain, US Navy Retired.

(***Note: offtopic post) Sir, I've got a very strong interest to be in the military. I noticed that you were a Captain. I was just wondering, how did you become an officer? What suggestions do you have for those of us who'd like to be in the Navy (or any branch) as officers?

P.S. I would've sent this as a PM, but it's disabled and you don't have an email address listed.

[smtroop168]

I know they administrators don't want us to get off topic but I'll give you a quick answer.

I received my commission through the NROTC program. I don't know where you are in life (HS, HS grad, College) but my advice would be to take a look at these two web sites (the other services have similar ones). Also visit a recruiting office where they will have the most current information for you.

One of the Eagle Scouts from our Troop was just commissioned from the Naval Academy. The Naval Academy has the largest NESA chapter in the country so being an Eagle Scout can help if you want to try to go there.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/navy/l/blcommission.htm

http://www.navy.com/careers/officer/

[spl08]

The Naval Academy has the largest NESA chapter in the country so being an Eagle Scout can help if you want to try to go there.

Do you believe that being a NESA member would help me?

also, I'm in HS

thank you for the advice and the links sir.

[RWSmith]

Not gonna happen.

http://www.mninter.net/~blkeagle/movsm.htm

I'm quite familiar with that page. Good page, too, BTW. But, what's your point? (That page actually re-enforces my point... As much as I'd like to see it (a US military ribbon for Eagle) happen, it still ain't gonna.)

(***Note: offtopic post)....P.S. I would've sent this as a PM, but it's disabled and you don't have an email address listed.

Just FYI, P.M. is disabled for a couple of good reasons. (Read the policies.)

I know they administrators don't want us to get off topic but I'll give you a quick answer.

Guys, as far as getting O.T., I wouldn't worry about it, too much. (Let us do that.) If you feel a topic is branching off and deserves/needs a thread of its own, go for it. Just, please, try to make your "Subject" for any new thread as consise and relevant as possible. If you think a thread needs to be split, just submit a post asking for it; one of us will usually accomodate such requests.

[spl08]

Not gonna happen.

http://www.mninter.net/~blkeagle/movsm.htm

I'm quite familiar with that page. Good page, too, BTW. But, what's your point? (That page actually re-enforces my point... it still ain't gonna happen.)

My point was that it still may happen

although former Secretary of the Army (and later Secretary of Veterans Services) Togo West, Jr. along with Army Sergeant Major Daniel Coberly, Jr. (both gentlemen are Distinguished Eagle Scouts) had developed a red, white, blue, gold, and green ribbon for military members whom have earned the Eagle, the Girl Scouts' Gold or First Class, or the FFA's Outstanding Leadership Awards. The status of the ribbon is that it is still in the Department of Defense's Personnel Services Committee awaiting action.

As far as getting O.T., I wouldn't worry about it, too much. Let us do that. If you feel a topic is branchnig off and need of a thread of own, go for it. Just try to make your "Subject" for any new thread as consise and relevant as possible.

yeah, I'm just wondering if it really is worth making a new thread since it would only be directed to him. though I suppose I could make one about becoming an officer in general.

[RWSmith]

My point was that it still may happen

although former Secretary of the Army (and later Secretary of Veterans Services) Togo West, Jr. along with Army Sergeant Major Daniel Coberly, Jr. (both gentlemen are Distinguished Eagle Scouts) had developed a red, white, blue, gold, and green ribbon for military members whom have earned the Eagle, the Girl Scouts' Gold or First Class, or the FFA's Outstanding Leadership Awards. The status of the ribbon is that it is still in the Department of Defense's Personnel Services Committee awaiting action.

Well, unfortunately, some of his pages have not been updated in some years. This page is for good info.; but, the part your referencing is dated by 7+ years.

[spl08]

Well, unfortunately, some of his pages have not been updated in some years. This page is for good info.; but, the part your referencing is dated by 7+ years.

That was the main reason for my thread; I was mainly wondering if anybody had an update.

[riverwalk]

I don't have an update. It sounds like something is being considered, per the comments here. Of course anything like that often takes a long time. As far as the Site referenced, he will reply and politely discuss the subject matter on his Site. He is a Scouter by the way, haha.


Unfortunately many District/Unit sites aren't updated either. This is apparent when searching for the knot information as an example.

[spl08]

He is a Scouter by the way, haha.

what's funny about that?