Ok, I have a new issue to an old problem..

[ASM-142]

First you need to make the apology on your own behalf to the troop. This is the first time that you stated that the SM and the ASM were involved. If this is the case then they should be removed.

[bluenote]

This is the first time that you stated that the SM and the ASM were involved.

Actually, he stated in his OP the adults had been made aware, then specifically stated in his 2nd post the SM had been brought in, to no avail.

[ASM-142]

This is the first time that you stated that the SM and the ASM were involved.

Actually, he stated in his OP the adults had been made aware, then specifically stated in his 2nd post the SM had been brought in, to no avail.

BEing made aware of this incident is one thing (and it sounds like it was done after the fact). Hubert's last statement sounded like the SM and ASM were involved in the harrassment/teasing of this scout.

[spl08]

Why do you posters keep on bringing up how he made fun of this scout??? He mentioned multiple times that he apologized to this scout and if Hubert is truly represtenting himself in these posts, this was a very sincere apology.

Hubert, did the ENTIRE troop here you make fun of this scout? Did even a majority? If not, and if this poking fun/joke(s) wasn't spread around, I would highly suggest you NOT make a public announcement to the troop! Think about it, the JASM is supposed to be one of the greatest examples of scouting's values. I'll temporarily assume that not everybody heard what Hubert said. The JASM (him) is constantly supposed to try to instill the points of the Oath and Law in the Scouts (as well as perform his other duties). If a couple of his buddies and the mocked scout where the only ones who heard what he said, then it will be only them who would view any attempt by him to instill scoutings values as hypocritical. All of the other scouts would simply continue to look up to him as before. Obviously, and as stated MANY times before, he has apologized to the scout in what sounds to be a very sincere manner in which case I would hope the mocked scout sincerely accepted it. If he also admits his mistakes to his friends/ the other scouts and expresses his regret in having made fun of this scout, that would say bounds of things about good character on his part (keep in mind to do this away from the other scouts). As a result, he would be looked up to by all.

Anyway, you guys got me talking about his mistake too much when that's not the primary issue at hand.

Hubert, let us know how your dealings with the other scouts go. Mention how you handled it. Did you end up doing what I suggested? Did you do what somebody else suggested? Did you find your own solution? A combo of any of things I just mentioned? I know you said you would try what I suggested, but I realize that somethimes plans can change.

Best of luck!

[Hubert]

Thank you SPL08, I will be doing much of those things. tonight I talked to the boy in question, and we worked out a few of the issues. But I will let everyone know how things go! Thank you again SPL08!


Well, I can see myself this is not going anywhere. I see what you would like me to do, but all of it has been done. So what I am going to do myself, is just pull away from this thread and let it die.

[cballman]

Hubert if you talked to the scout that was mocked and you talked to his family, if your apology was heartfelt and sincere then you have done pretty much the most that you could do. It takes a heckuva person to admit they were wrong and apologize. now if the leaders were involved and other kids, then they must also do the right thing. sometimes we forget scouts and leaders are human and we make mistakes just like others. the hardest part is to worry about yourself and then maybe the others will look to you as an example and then maybe this incident will become a learning tool to use. just remember its easier to point the finger and say that you did wrong but it takes guts to say I made the mistake and try to right the wrong.. a little long winded but then again guess what I have made mistakes over the years as a leader and I feel that if another person makes a mistake then as a old quote goes " he who is without sin may cast the first stone " if not then lets help out the young man when he needs us. Thank You in advance for helping out this young man.