Committee-ASM Rules and Regulations

[BM_Crawford]

Does someone know of where I can find in clear print the rules that the committee and that of an adult leader are and where their boundaries are? We are having problems with our committee and I need to know all the rules.

Thanks alot!

[commish3]

That will really depend on what rules, regulations and limitations you refer to.

The BSA controls 4 areas with regulations: membership, safety, uniform, advancement. each are has its own manual or form that covers those rules.

The Troop Committee Guide book explains the roles and responsibilitites of the committee. Could you be more specific about your concern? I think that would allow a more specific answer.

Sorry you are having difficulty with the committee.

[BM_Crawford]

Ahh thanks, what I mean is the troop committee is basically trying to take over the functions of the Adult Leader. They try to regulate everything the troop does, even and especially things that do not pretain to anything about the troops budget or the saftey of the boys. They want to plan the meetings (which is a boy leadership responsibility) try to change the schedual without ASM/SM approval and called up one of the leader's and told them that the committee is in charge and all we are suppose to do is sit in the meeting room.

They have no idea where their budget is and are out of money constantly yet pay for nothing... lol there are alot more stuff but I dont want to bore you.

I just need to know their limits so I can go over with them their limits so they dont overstep them anymore.

[Rick Tyler]

Ahh thanks, what I mean is the troop committee is basically trying to take over the functions of the Adult Leader.

You haven't asked for advice, but I want to throw one thing in here. Get in touch with your District Commissioner. It isn't the commissioner's job to fix your problems (or change water to wine, or raise the dead), but he can be a great counselor to gently remind everyone what their role should be in Scouting.

Sounds to me like your committee chair doesn't understand their job, or they feel like they are dealing with a weak Scoutmaster. Good luck.

[BM_Crawford]

Thanks, that sounds like a great idea I could really use!

[Lynda J]

The committee needs to realize that the troop is BOY RUN. That is the entire focus of scouting. Our committee will come to us with ideas. Those ideas are then presented at the PLC. If the boys like them, the boys work it our. If not it is dropped. But our committee does not try to run the troop.
If fact we seldom see them. Except for a parent or two that will go camping with us from time to time.

[commish3]

I would suggest that what is needed is Troop Committee Challenge, a three hour basic training course for troop committee members.

The Troop Committee Guide says that the primary role of the troop committee is to support the troop program as determined by the SM and the PLC.

I think getting this training in front of them would be a powerful eye-opener.

Good Luck!

[wagionvigil]

A While back we were discussing Troop rules and you said your troop had rules that affected advancement. AS a new Asst. Scoutmaster you can make change in your troop. The problem with the Committee has alot to do with your Troop Rules as they are probably the ones that set those rules. I am now the CC and I only meet with the Troop leadership on a Quarterly basis or as needed. It is the Job of the Patrol Leaders Council to operate the Troop on a Day to day basis. Camp outs, Meetings, etc. I am not to get involved in that part of the operation UNLESS there is a problem.

[BM_Crawford]

Dead on sir, they did write the troop policy

I do believe the committee needs training and I'm going to talk to them as soon as I am able with the information I have obtained here. Thanks for all of your help I'll let you know how things turn out.

[BM_Crawford]

Hmm, it seems my troop contacted the District Commissioner before and he wrote it off as nothing because he is friends with most of the committee members This is hard to get around...

[Lynda J]

Brian, If your troop got no help from your District Commissioner, then you go over his head. Call your District Executive.

[BM_Crawford]

Thanks! I'll have to do that!

[t305spl]

Thats probabily the best way to do it Brian. We were having some problems at first too.