Eagle Project problem

[shortdudey123]

Does anyone know if an organization is allowed to pull out and stop an eagle project halfway through?

Thanks

[wagionvigil]

ANd the reason they are giving is???/

[Bill Pitcher]

I had a Scout plan and design a new playground for a nursery school at a local church. They were to provide the funding and purchase the equiptment. But, they ran out of money, TOTALLY, and they went under. No more nursery school! The Scout had to find a new project. He did and became an Eagle. But what a disappointment initially. Another reason NOT to wait until you are 17 1/2 to start!

[FrankJ]

If they ran of money & went under, they cannot really help pulling out of the project can they? If the scout had completed enough of the project to show leadership, I would consider it complete.

You can argue that the signed eagle project papers is a contract with the scout. But even then what recourse do you have other than discussing the issue with the head of the organization? Threaten them with you are going to let us do this project to help you or else? Hardly scout like.

I can understand the scout frustration, but there is not much to do but move on. Later when the anger has died down, maybe a teaching moment about evaluating opportunities. Certainly keep it mind when advising other scouts on project opportunities.

[Bill Pitcher]

I hear you Frank, but after approval of the paperwork, the nursery went under before he got started. He offered to raise the $, but they closed their doors. End of that story And, as I said, he moved on.

YIS . . . Bill

[evmori]

Actually, the organization the project is being done for can pull out for what ever reason they want.

[deweylure]

Consider this part of life. Hopefully it will be a popsitive learning experience. Yes it was planned and approved. the company went out of buisness. What matters most is the Scout pulled it togeather, showing real leadership ability at at crunch time.

Dewey lure

[lifescoutforlife]

Consider this part of life. Hopefully it will be a popsitive learning experience. Yes it was planned and approved. the company went out of buisness. What matters most is the Scout pulled it togeather, showing real leadership ability at at crunch time.

Dewey lure

Ditto! Glad to see that he drove on and got done what he needed to do.
Congrats to him!

[smtroop168]

Please define "halfway through" for us.

[jr56]

These things do happen. The important thing is that the young man followed through and completed his goal, and didn't let this misfortune derail him. Yes, good thing he wasn't 17.5

[shortdudey123]

The school the project is for has plenty of funding, the project was part of the budget.

By "halfway through" i mean the planning, and ordering of the products is done, all that is left is the installation.

The school is threatening to pull out for reasons unrelated to the project or funding of any kind.

[Chief J]

I do not believe there is enough information here to render a proper answer.

Why does the school want to pull out?

Who has ordered the materials? What is there obligation if payment is not made?

Was the project approved? Did the appropriate school officials provide approval?

Was the project being followed as planned and approved?

Etc, Etc,?

Chief J

[OldGreyBear]

If the sponsoring organization says we dont want the project, for whatever reason, then its time for a new project. What do you do, get a Court order to force an organization to accept a project?How would that play out tonight on Action News at 11?

The troop I serve had a scout all set to build a bridge over a small stream in a neatby state park, had the ranger's permission, everything was set in June for an August build date (historically the time of the lowest level of the stream) Then on July 2, there was a change of Park Ranger's, the new guy didnt want a bridge over the stream, he favored a more primative approach, have the hikers wade the stream. Boy had to scramble to get a new project done. Moral? should have done it the prvious year instead of waiting

[shortdudey123]

Why does the school want to pull out?
-reasons that are too complicated to explain, but it would be like a landlord taking away your car while it is on their propterty (at the place you would be renting) just because you are $2 behind in rent. (best analogy i can come up with)

Who has ordered the materials? What is their obligation if payment is not made?
-school ordered the materials for me to get an educational discount; the company they ordered from would probably sue for the cost of the unpayed balance

Was the project approved? Did the appropriate school officials provide approval?
-Yes and yes

Was the project being followed as planned and approved?
-Yes and yes

[pipestone1991]

This is hard, you'd have talk to national to see what could happen in this situation.

[smtroop168]

Time to move on and get another project. I don't believe National gets involves with projects. Actually my understanding is that there is no appeal process if your project is turned down by the district level.

[Mrw]

Who has ordered the materials? What is their obligation if payment is not made?
-school ordered the materials for me to get an educational discount; the company they ordered from would probably sue for the cost of the unpayed balance

If the materials have been ordered and/or already received, but not used, then they can be returned to the supplier.

I feel your pain at having gotten this far and then have the project yanked out from under you, but it does sound like it is time to start again.

[Chief J]

Who has ordered the materials? What is their obligation if payment is not made?
-school ordered the materials for me to get an educational discount; the company they ordered from would probably sue for the cost of the unpayed balance

If the materials have been ordered and/or already received, but not used, then they can be returned to the supplier.

I feel your pain at having gotten this far and then have the project yanked out from under you, but it does sound like it is time to start again.

Actually sounds to me like the school should be on the hook for paying for the materials, if they ordered them using their purchasing power. I also agree that it is time to move on - this project sounds like it will continue to be difficult.

Chief J

[FrankJ]

This sounds like more than the run of the mill obstacles that you would expect an eagle candidate to resolve on their own. I would talk (or better have the scout with you) to who ever is in charge of eagle project approval on the district advancement committee. An eagle project is more about the process than the end result. Together they can decide on if the project is salvageable & what kind of modifications to the project is in order.

[shortdudey123]

thank you everyone for your quick replies. The school has changed their mind and my project will go as planned.

Thz to everyone who posted.