Eagle Scout Leadership POR

[ronin718]

Okay, folks, I need some clarification. MB.org says the Bugler position is a valid POR for Leadership time for Eagle. Scouting.org says it's not, and it's not listed in the reqs for Eagle in the Book.

So, what's the correct answer?

[wagionvigil]

The 2008 Eagle Application does not list it as a POR.

[ronin718]

Then I take it the answer is 'no', bugler does not apply.

[wagionvigil]

That would be my take on it!

[PaulSWolf]

Bugler has NEVER, as far back as I'm aware, been eligible for use as a POR toward Eagle advancement. It IS eligible for use as a POR for Star and Life, however.

[joat]

It's not likely that the official BSA website would be wrong. What does your Boy Scout Handbook say?

[FrankJ]

It's not likely that the official BSA website would be wrong. What does your Boy Scout Handbook say?

The official web site (www.scouting.org) does not list bulger as a POR for eagle. The acceptable PORs are under rank requirements for boy scouts.

[smtroop168]

I can't find where mb.org says Bugler counts for Eagle. Paul is correct about Star/Life. Prior to 1963 PORs weren't listed as a requirement. You only had to serve satisfactorily as a Life Scout.

From the 1961 requirements.
While a Life Scout for a period of at least six months show to the satisfaction of your unit leaders that you --
Work actively as a leader in meeting, outdoor activities, and service projects of your unit.

[ronin718]

I can't find where mb.org says Bugler counts for Eagle. ...

Take a look at the position description for Bugler. Here's the quote from the Info line: "Serving as Bugler can apply towards Positions of Responsibility requirements for Star, Life, and Eagle."

I guess we need a little editing there.

[smtroop168]

I see it now. I'm sure the editors will take care of that. You must have a Life scout who is the Bugler!

[lifescoutforlife]

We have 2 life scouts in our troop that are buglers, niether of them get POR for this postion. They have other POR's that count toward eagle. One of them used bugler for Star and Life but can not for eagle.

[ronin718]

I see it now. I'm sure the editors will take care of that. You must have a Life scout who is the Bugler!

Yep, I do.... My son. He boarded Life last month, and it's a point of concern due to the fact that he'd like to get his Eagle while with our current troop, and we may be getting transferred overseas next summer. We'll now have to address the POR issue when operations resume next month so he can meet this time req.

[milominderbinder2]

I can't find where mb.org says Bugler counts for Eagle. ...

Take a look at the position description for Bugler. Here's the quote from the Info line: "Serving as Bugler can apply towards Positions of Responsibility requirements for Star, Life, and Eagle."

I guess we need a little editing there.

Fixed.

- Craig

[Quailman]

We have 2 life scouts in our troop that are buglers...

Would you mind sending one our way. We don't have any musically inclined scouts at present.

[wagionvigil]

The VFW's actually have an Electronic Bugle to Play Taps.

[VenturingL]

Quailman - Spring has some excellent band programs - possible recruiting opportunity.

[smtroop168]

Thanks Craig...now you can get back to work on worksheet updating.

[ronin718]

We have 2 life scouts in our troop that are buglers...

Would you mind sending one our way. We don't have any musically inclined scouts at present.

You could always do like some of our neighboring troops did at camp. They just took advantage of our bugler to tell them when it was time to wake up or go to sleep. Supposedly made an impression on their boys, having a 12-year-old bugler in another troop to show them how it's done.

[lifescoutforlife]

We have 2 life scouts in our troop that are buglers...

Would you mind sending one our way. We don't have any musically inclined scouts at present.

LOL! They have a great teacher that they practice with. He is our OA section advisor along with our lodge advisor. He is by far the greatest person I have ever meet in scouting. He has bugle practice for anyone that is willing to attend every Monday from 6:00 to 6:30.