Certified Trainer

[ThunderingWind]

What is process to become a National BSA certified trainer of the Venture NLE, Venture Leader Specifics and Venture YP courses? I am looking to be certified to train at the District level.

My District Training Chair is not sure of the process for the Venture Program.

I figure there should be at least 4 courses before one is "Trained to Train."

1) Trainer the Trainer - How to lead training, set up the room, equipment, how to write on the board etc....
2) NLE for the Trainer
3) VLS for the Trainer
4) YP for the Trainer

Then there required assist a course, lead a course, manage a course before one is fully certified.

[mt_goodrich]

I didn't know there was any kind of National BSA Trainer certification.

Where can I find out more about it?

I am part of the district training team and have presented training for all the programs, except for Venturing.

[ThunderingWind]

Are you telling me that there is NO Certification for Training?

Man, that is a bummer. Maybe on of my Wood Badge ticket itmes can be to submit a proposal creating a certification.

OK........So what is the process? How is one trained to be a BSA Trainer for a District and be legally allowed to wear the
"District Training Team" patch, the silver loops and the "Trained" patch?

[mt_goodrich]

Our council has the Longhorn Certified Trainer, which is for the Longhorn Council. Here is the link:

http://www.longhorncouncil.org/training ... rainer.htm

I will have completed the last thing for this in a couple of weeks.

[wagionvigil]

Mike you find a COH you can use?

[FrankJ]

OK........So what is the process? How is one trained to be a BSA Trainer for a District and be legally allowed to wear the
"District Training Team" patch, the silver loops and the "Trained" patch?

Silver Loops: Be registered for a district or council position.

District Training Team: Is there a BSA designation or is that a local thing? I am on our district's training staff & not heard of it. (I did get the hat though.) If it a local thing then I guess you key 3 or district training chair would ultimately decide.

Trained Patch: In our council you go to a council level work shop for district committees. It cover some general stuff & then has break outs for different sub committees.

[wagionvigil]

Local thing. There is no National Training thing that I know of.

[Nuts4Scouts]

OK........So what is the process? How is one trained to be a BSA Trainer for a District and be legally allowed to wear the "District Training Team" patch, the silver loops and the "Trained" patch?

There is no "District Training Team" patch, the color of the shoulder loops you wear are for the primary REGISTERED position you are fulfilling at the time (Cub Scout, Boy Scout, Venturing, Commissioner, etc), there is no REGISTERED "District Trainer" position with BSA. The trained patch is worn by leaders who have completed all of the basic training for their position and it is worn only with the emblem of office for that position.

In order to train others you first have to have taken the training yourself. Most training courses, at the end of their evaluation sheets, have a spot where you can check to volunteer to help with a future training. This is the first step to becoming a member of your council training staff.

Get to know your District and Council Training Chair. Let them know you are available to help with any of the trainings you have taken. Take the Trainer Development Conference training. If your Training Chairs feel that you would make a good addition to their team, THEY will usually ask YOU.

[mt_goodrich]

Mike you find a COH you can use?

Actually, passed the information onto the SPL who is putting together next COH. Making boys start taking charge of things.

[ThunderingWind]

There is no "District Training Team" patch, the color of the shoulder loops you wear are for the primary REGISTERED position you are fulfilling at the time (Cub Scout, Boy Scout, Venturing, Commissioner, etc), there is no REGISTERED "District Trainer" position with BSA. The trained patch is worn by leaders who have completed all of the basic training for their position and it is worn only with the emblem of office for that position.

Wow!!! Two out of the three Councils I have been in have a District Training Team patch and wear the Silver loops when training. But then this would not be the first time I have been told some Councils/Districts/Unit do wha they want.

Get to know your District and Council Training Chair. Let them know you are available to help with any of the trainings you have taken. Take the Trainer Development Conference training.

I did ask the Training Chair. He did not know the process ones uses to become a Trainer for the Venture program.

Is your Council/District offering the Trainer Development Conference anytime soon? Is it available from National via correspondance? We have not had a University of Scouting or Pow Wow here for a while. And it does not seem any are being planned.

[FrankJ]

Nuts wrote you wear the loops for the registered position you are fulfilling at the time (district trainer would be gray).
Other are wearing a council created position patch. Which council is doing what they want?

BTW I am not the uniform police. I really do not care that much. More important to me is providing a program meaningful for the boys. If that means slight uniform imperfections per the insignia guide, so what.

I am taking VLST training this weeking. If I think about it. I will ask one of the trainers it takes to be a certified venturing trainer.

[ThunderingWind]

BTW I am not the uniform police. I really do not care that much. More important to me is providing a program meaningful for the boys. If that means slight uniform imperfections per the insignia guide, so what.

I agree. I like the Venture themed patches out there that while not official (Trained, VOA right sleeve, and Corps of Discovery, and award knots) from the the BSA, still show the proper Spirit of Venturing.

I am taking VLST training this weeking. If I think about it. I will ask one of the trainers it takes to be a certified venturing trainer.

I hope it is well presented and you get a lot out of it. Ask these trainers what is working for thier Crew, what events are well attended, how is youth leadership working or not working for them.

[riverwalk]

Should be the same process as any other specific class. NLE is the same for all, and only need be taken once. Trainers however, ideally have attended training courses to prepare them for such Teams. Today it's TDC, and in the past it was Train the Trainer. Same thing basically in that you learned some training methods and how important pizazz is.

But the local Training team should know how to answer these questions, and sign off (accept) the new Trainer. What they don't want, is for anyone to be out there training without the official syllabus as their guide.

[Cowboy]

How about this one:
We have Train the Trainer being conducted in our Council in a couple of weeks. The individual who is conducting it has never even taken it. I would guess that means that there is no actuall BSA "certification".

[wagionvigil]

There was at one time and it was in The Cub Scout division. Cub Scout Trainer Wood Badge was geared toward training other scouters.

[WVBeaver05]

And the newest (I think) training for this is the Trainers EDGE.

Anyone had that course yet? (We just had it today.)

YiS

[mt_goodrich]

And the newest (I think) training for this is the Trainers EDGE.

Anyone had that course yet? (We just had it today.)

YiS

Do you have a link for it? Or can you tell us more about it?

I am now a Council Certified Trainer and would like to learn how to be better.

[WVBeaver05]

I'll tell you what I can.

Trainers EDGE is the new course (introduced at the Philmont Training Center at the end of last summer, as I understand it) that will replace the Train The Trainer course(s). It encorporates the EDGE model (Explain Demonstrate Guide Enable) that is currently used in both NYLT and Wood Badge for the 21st Century. The goal being to improve the capability of trainers to deliver the BSA program. As a part of this, EDGE is used.

Our course was scheduled from 8 to 5, but we cut lunch a bit short in order to finish a bit ahead of that (one District was having a dinner and we wanted to get the folks out in time for that). The material was good (as good as any Train the Trainer Course I have had). I consider it to be a good course and think it will help trainers at all levels and with all levels of experience.

I did a quick Google search and see several Councils listing this course. I would suggest checking with your Council Training group to see where it stands in your locations.

YiS

[mt_goodrich]

Thanks Wayne....I'll drop a note to our Council's Training Committee Chairperson asking about it.

[ccjj]

As of now, our SE says we are to only do the old TDC, that the new training is ONLY for WoodBadge and NYLT staff. We are trying a 2 evening split this month for TDC for a few newer trainers. The first week went over well, and we have the completion next week.

ccjj