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2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby smtroop168 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:11 pm

Paul...Get Hot! :D

New 2010 book is out. Inside Front Cover says:

Revised MB requirements for: Architecture, Computers, Fishing, FLy-Fishing, Landscape Architecture

Minor MB updates for
Athletics
Coin Collecting
Communications
Dentistry
Family Life
Fire Safety
Geology
Graphic Arts
Home Repairs
Medicine
Personal Fitness
Safety

Plus all the rank requirements changes previosuly covered.

Book now defines ACTIVE and adds a new twist..A Scout will be considered active if he is "In Communication with the unit leader on a quarterly basis"
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby wagionvigil » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:18 pm

All that takes is a Phone Call,email or a text message and keep a record of it. I can see some SM's saying mo way am I allowing that.
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby PaulSWolf » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:33 pm

smtroop168 wrote:Paul...Get Hot! :D

New 2010 book is out. Inside Front Cover says:

Revised MB requirements for: Architecture, Computers, Fishing, FLy-Fishing, Landscape Architecture

Minor MB updates for
Athletics
Coin Collecting
Communications
Dentistry
Family Life
Fire Safety
Geology
Graphic Arts
Home Repairs
Medicine
Personal Fitness
Safety

Plus all the rank requirements changes previosuly covered.

Book now defines ACTIVE and adds a new twist..A Scout will be considered active if he is "In Communication with the unit leader on a quarterly basis"
THANKS. That helps a bit. As soon as I can get a copy I'll get busy :-)

If you have the book, and can scan and email me the inside covers (front and back), and the relevant merit badge pages as pdfs or images, that would help me get started earlier.
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby smtroop168 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:56 pm

PaulSWolf wrote:
smtroop168 wrote:Paul...Get Hot! :D

New 2010 book is out. Inside Front Cover says:

Revised MB requirements for: Architecture, Computers, Fishing, FLy-Fishing, Landscape Architecture

Minor MB updates for
Athletics
Coin Collecting
Communications
Dentistry
Family Life
Fire Safety
Geology
Graphic Arts
Home Repairs
Medicine
Personal Fitness
Safety

Plus all the rank requirements changes previosuly covered.

Book now defines ACTIVE and adds a new twist..A Scout will be considered active if he is "In Communication with the unit leader on a quarterly basis"
THANKS. That helps a bit. As soon as I can get a copy I'll get busy :-)

If you have the book, and can scan and email me the inside covers (front and back), and the relevant merit badge pages as pdfs or images, that would help me get started earlier.


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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby smtroop168 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:03 pm

wagionvigil wrote:All that takes is a Phone Call,email or a text message and keep a record of it. I can see some SM's saying mo way am I allowing that.


Here's more of the wording that follows: p.20

"If the scout does not initiate communication, the unit leader is to contact the scout and ask if the youth wishes to remain in scouting. I f the answer is negative, then the unit leader should no longer communicate with the scout. If the answer is affirmative, the unit leader should provide the unit calendar. After six months of nonparticipation, the unit leader may cease to contact (sic) with the youth and drop the scout from the unit at recharter time.

The scout may return to the unit at any time while on the unit charter. At any time a scout is dropped froma charter, the youth may re-apply toa unit for readmission; the acceptance of the application is at the discretion of the unit. The youth would be reinstated at the rank and level that can be documented by either the scout or the unit."
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby PaulSWolf » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:21 am

smtroop168 wrote:
wagionvigil wrote:All that takes is a Phone Call,email or a text message and keep a record of it. I can see some SM's saying mo way am I allowing that.


Here's more of the wording that follows: p.20

"If the scout does not initiate communication, the unit leader is to contact the scout and ask if the youth wishes to remain in scouting. I f the answer is negative, then the unit leader should no longer communicate with the scout. If the answer is affirmative, the unit leader should provide the unit calendar. After six months of nonparticipation, the unit leader may cease to contact (sic) with the youth and drop the scout from the unit at recharter time.

The scout may return to the unit at any time while on the unit charter. At any time a scout is dropped froma charter, the youth may re-apply toa unit for readmission; the acceptance of the application is at the discretion of the unit. The youth would be reinstated at the rank and level that can be documented by either the scout or the unit."


Matt, can you scan that page, too, so I can see it in context?
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby Cowboy » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:56 pm

"If the scout does not initiate communication, the unit leader is to contact the scout and ask if the youth wishes to remain in scouting."
I think Mr. Webster is rolling over in his grave with this definition.
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby wagionvigil » Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:04 pm

The old definition was "Registered" this is a step up or a step down how ever you see it. Many boys that loose interest as they get older from the result of Leaders slowing down their Advancement. Boys need to advance on theor own schedule not some schedule made up by a SM or Troop committee. This Black & WHite definition will help a young man that has been put in this situation by these "adults". Now that all being said if we are going with this grade 5 to Grade 11 program of advancement. ANy normal scout/kid should be able to make Eagle by grade 9. That is taking in to consideration they can swim and they attend summer camp each summer.
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby smtroop168 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:44 pm

smtroop168 wrote:
wagionvigil wrote:All that takes is a Phone Call,email or a text message and keep a record of it. I can see some SM's saying mo way am I allowing that.


Here's more of the wording that follows: p.20

"If the scout does not initiate communication, the unit leader is to contact the scout and ask if the youth wishes to remain in scouting. I f the answer is negative, then the unit leader should no longer communicate with the scout. If the answer is affirmative, the unit leader should provide the unit calendar. After six months of nonparticipation, the unit leader may cease to contact (sic) with the youth and drop the scout from the unit at recharter time.

The scout may return to the unit at any time while on the unit charter. At any time a scout is dropped froma charter, the youth may re-apply toa unit for readmission; the acceptance of the application is at the discretion of the unit. The youth would be reinstated at the rank and level that can be documented by either the scout or the unit."


I love quoting myself. :D

Anyway...the key word to me that was added is "nonparticipation". Whereas before the scout did not have to participate, just be Registered, now the scout actually has to show up to stuff. The 2nd part about returning is not new. We have scouts transferring in from being out of scouts while overseas.
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby Cowboy » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:37 pm

New wording won't change the "leaders" who are holding a boy back. Those clowns always have what they consider a valid reason for it. Most recently I was informed that a "leader" had been holding a boy back from advancement because he (the leader) was afraid that the parents of the Scout would leave the Troop when the boy Eagled. It is true that they are very active and provide a lot of support to the boys and SM, but really, how can this fool think that causing undue iritation is going to encourage the parents or the boy to stick around? In my opinion: It is all the more reason to find another Troop that can use trained & active adults. Personally I think that this is why that particular Troop has trouble keeping Eagles and parents.
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby smtroop168 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:01 pm

Cowboy wrote:New wording won't change the "leaders" who are holding a boy back. Those clowns always have what they consider a valid reason for it. Most recently I was informed that a "leader" had been holding a boy back from advancement because he (the leader) was afraid that the parents of the Scout would leave the Troop when the boy Eagled. It is true that they are very active and provide a lot of support to the boys and SM, but really, how can this fool think that causing undue iritation is going to encourage the parents or the boy to stick around? In my opinion: It is all the more reason to find another Troop that can use trained & active adults. Personally I think that this is why that particular Troop has trouble keeping Eagles and parents.


Old wording didn't change leaders either. I don't read this as allowing leaders to supress advancement.

I view this as National responding to the concern that Active is more than Registered and to help units with phantom Life Scouts who just show up at the last minute to make Eagle. Most of the arguments I've seen over the Active Definition deal with these types of scouts. If they want to be active, then they must participate for some period after they say they wish to remain in scouting or get dropped. Just like tracking POR time, the onus is on the unit to manage this.
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby Billiken » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:46 pm

smtroop168 wrote:"If the scout does not initiate communication, the unit leader is to contact the scout and ask if the youth wishes to remain in scouting. If the answer is negative, then the unit leader should no longer communicate with the scout.


I'm going to assume that no response (from the Scout) is the same as a negative response.
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby smtroop168 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:27 pm

Billiken wrote:
smtroop168 wrote:"If the scout does not initiate communication, the unit leader is to contact the scout and ask if the youth wishes to remain in scouting. If the answer is negative, then the unit leader should no longer communicate with the scout.


I'm going to assume that no response (from the Scout) is the same as a negative response.
Agree?


Agree. One and done.
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby PaulSWolf » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:58 pm

First, THANKS to sm168. The scans were a tremendous help.

Last evening I completed a review of the new BOY SCOUT REQUIREMENTS 2010 booklet and uploaded information on all of the known changes to Merit Badge and Rank requirements. I also included the new definition and explanation of he procedure to be used for identifying "ACTIVE" Scouts.

Note that the stock number for the requirements booklet, which for many years was 33215x, and last year was changed to 33216, has once again changed, this time to 34765.

A summary of all of the changes can be accessed on the US Scouting Service Project web site at:

http://usscouts.org/advance/changes/advchanges10.asp

As usual, I've used color highlighting in the summary to identify exactly what wording has changed. There are links from the summary to the full requirements for each badge, both with and without highlighting, and from the new requirements to the old requirements for those still using them.

One other item of note is that BSA has clarified the positions of responsibility lists for Star/Life/Eagle to specifically include Webmaster and LNT Trainer as valid for all three ranks in any unit (Troop/Team/Crew/Ship), and that Bugler is valid for Star/Life, it is NOT an eligible position for Eagle (correcting an error in the new Handbook). They also reworded the Eagle "Scout Spirit" requirement, but that is not noted on the inside cover. And the "age requirement" for joining was clarified, but not listed as a change.

17 merit badges have changes. Of those, 5 have major changes, and the other 12 have just a few changes (some of those are really quite minor in scope or just editorial, really), and Scuba Diving is included, of course. Some of the changes bring the book into conformance with merit badge books issued in the past few years (such as Graphic Arts).

New Merit Badge pamphlets are available for 8 subjects: Communications, Computers, Fishing, Fly-Fishing, Home Repairs, Medicine, and Oceanography, plus Scuba Diving, of course.

The summary also includes what I've found as the requirements for the four "Retro" or "Historical" Merit Badges available this year. The name of one is still in question, however, as I've seen it listed as both "Signaller" and "Signaling" in different documents. The original name of Signaller was only used in 1910, and the badge was known as Signaling from 1911-1992, so either name could be the final choice. I've listed it as Signaling at this point, using the name that was used in the announcement in Scouting Magazine's Cracker Barrel blog.

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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby smtroop168 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:41 pm

Thanks Paul but mine was the easy part. $4.95 and some electrons and you did the rest.
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby smtroop168 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:11 pm

There is one other change to the Communication MB not listed in the front cover.

#8 now adds "an interfaith worship service" as one of the options to be an emcee
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby smtroop168 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:59 pm

smtroop168 wrote:There is one other change to the Communication MB not listed in the front cover.

#8 now adds "an interfaith worship service" as one of the options to be an emcee


Paul...haven't seen that you have added this to your update...Matt
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby PaulSWolf » Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:35 pm

smtroop168 wrote:
smtroop168 wrote:There is one other change to the Communication MB not listed in the front cover.

#8 now adds "an interfaith worship service" as one of the options to be an emcee


Paul...haven't seen that you have added this to your update...Matt

As Good Old Charlie Brown would say, "ARGGGGHHH!!!"

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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby PaulSWolf » Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:55 pm

THe change to Communications 8 is now posted on my pages. Thanks Matt
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Re: 2010 BSA Requirements Book is Out!

Postby wagionvigil » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:00 am

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