Important Changes to YPT, effective June 1, 2010....

[wagionvigil]

Effective June 1, 2010:
- Youth Protection Training is required for all registered volunteers.
- New leaders are required to take Youth Protection Training before they submit their application for registration. The certificate of completion for this training must be submitted at the time application is made and before volunteer service with youth begins.
- Youth Protection Training must be taken every two years. If a volunteer's Youth Protection Training record is not current at the time of recharter, the volunteer will not be reregistered

[smtroop168]

Effective June 1, 2010:
- Youth Protection Training is required for all registered volunteers.
- New leaders are required to take Youth Protection Training before they submit their application for registration. The certificate of completion for this training must be submitted at the time application is made and before volunteer service with youth begins.
- Youth Protection Training must be taken every two years. If a volunteer's Youth Protection Training record is not current at the time of recharter, the volunteer will not be reregistered

Did this come out of the National meeting?

I'll be interested to see how long it takes for our council to announce this.

[smtroop168]

Spoke too soon....This has been posted to our council website.

[wagionvigil]

Spoke too soon....This has been posted to our council website.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

[FrankJ]

While I agree with the sentiment this seems to be a knee jerk reaction. If you been involved at all in training the last few years, you know how screwed up training records are. It will interesting how they deal with that. It also going to be a lot of fun registering merit badge councilors who are not otherwise involved in scouting.

At least I have 7 months until recharter.

Since our CO already requires every one with direct contact to have YPT, this is is really just an logistical issue for us.

[smtroop168]

And we also have to have the Diocese of Harrisburg's YPT as well. They give us special badges to wear to let folks know we're okay to be around kids.

I agree that the MBC lists will be a huge challenge.

[ThunderingWind]

I can see the knee jerk reaction for Merit Badges now.......

Large school gym is set up with a myriad of tables and presentation boards all around the edges. Each 'station'
is fronted by four rows of eight to ten chairs. The only thing separating the sections is tape on the floor.

Enter 400 Scouts, leaders and Merit Badge Counselors and "Special Guest/Experts in the Field of XYZ" and the
show begins.

Scouts take thier seats while the MBCs try to explain the various details fo the Merit Badge they are trying to teach.
The noise caused by all the Scouts asking questions in the accoustically challenged room soon drowns out several
great instructors.

At the end of the day, blue cards (or completion forms) are signed and collected. The boys go home with badge or
two earned having really learned nothing.

The leadership gathers and does a post-event analysis. Not bad, they say. We protected every kid.

Granted, the above is a stretch. But it is what my law class came up with in about 30 seconds.

[ccjj]

What about Charter Reps? They are listed on the charter and sometimes in a small unit, they double as a member of committee. I wonder if they will be required to take YP?

ccjj

[smtroop168]

What about Charter Reps? They are listed on the charter and sometimes in a small unit, they double as a member of committee. I wonder if they will be required to take YP?

ccjj

ALL Registered Volunteers.

[FrankJ]

COR might be be a special case if they are just CORs. If they are registered as committee then committee rules will apply. My advice is to be patient and see what clarifications come out. Direct contact were supposed to be trained in 90 days anyway. So this really is not that big of a change. The biggest issue I see is a logistical one of to document trained leaders so you do not lose the trained one at recharter. My advice would be to start early.

I wonder what is going to happen on the Venturing side which uses consultants who are largely unregistered.

[AquilaNegra2]

YPT online takes less than an hour.

BUT, I foresee yet *another* drop in the number of MBCs. When they started requiring SSNs, we lost a substantial number of them. Experts such as police officers, artists, engineers, and other professionals that were only doing merit badge counseling. It was another hoop, and many weren't willing to jump through it. Coming soon to a Scout Council near you -- merit badge counselor lists that are made up entirely of Scouts' parents.

[RWSmith]

This is not a knee-jerk reaction. "Mandatory training" changes have been in the pipeline the past couple of years. It's my understanding that we can expect to see more phased in over the next couple of years. (But, I think this is the only one that will be required prior to submitting an adult leader application.) -- If I can find the official timeline, I'll post it here.

Also, regarding the SSAN: there have been good changes to the SSAN problem on adult apps, such as... The SSAN is only "visible" on the Council copy of the adult appl. and it's now handled by the Council. For example, it's no longer possible to enter, see or verify a person's SSAN during the online recharter process -- unless, you're the Council registrar.

[wagionvigil]

You will be trained and you will maintain that training or you will no longer be in the Boy Scouts. SM Training 10 years ago no longer counts. No longer once trained you are trained.

[FrankJ]

Actually SM training does not expire so SM training from ten years ago is still good.

The knee jerk reaction is not that YPT is required. It has been required for direct contact leaders for some time. To require it to be current for recharter is not a bad idea. What I see as knee jerk is announcing that on essentially the next business day that you need additional documentation to register volunteers. Especially if that involves a computer system that is buggy when you do things in the correct order using the specific web browser it likes. You are going to have to take YPT and go back and associate it with a number membership at some later date. I hope that national and councils are going to be willing to devote the resources to make this work. If not your are going to have the minimum number of registered leaders and a lot of unregistered parent volunteer--which will be a step backwards.

What BSA really needs to do is make sure that the Charter Orgs understand their job in selecting leader and that they do it.

[wagionvigil]

Actually SM training does not expire so SM training from ten years ago is still good.

Is does not at this time but watch in the near future it will and there will be no grandfather clause. I know of SM that took training 30 years ago and they have not uptated are they trained? Really?

[Billiken]

Effective June 1, 2010:
- Youth Protection Training is required for all registered volunteers.
- New leaders are required to take Youth Protection Training before they submit their application for registration.

How can an incoming volunteer take YPT on-line at myscouting.org, if you're not registered ?

[smtroop168]

Effective June 1, 2010:
- Youth Protection Training is required for all registered volunteers.
- New leaders are required to take Youth Protection Training before they submit their application for registration.

How can an incoming volunteer take YPT on-line at myscouting.org, if you're not registered ?

FROM THE SCOUTING.ORG site

YOUTH PROTECTION TRAINING: Volunteers who wish to take the Youth Protection Training Course in E-Learning may do so at any time. You do not need a member ID to take this course. Click on E-Learning and select Youth Protection Training from the General tab. You will receive a certificate of completion. When you add your member ID to your Profile, the course completion will be updated for your council.

[jr56]

I may be wrong, but I think the girl scouts have been requiring training of all new leaders for quite awhile.

[wagionvigil]

I may be wrong, but I think the girl scouts have been requiring training of all new leaders for quite awhile.

Nope you are correct they have been for at least 15 years . Without certain training you cannot do certain things.
BSA is making it easier and easier all you need is a computer and internet access. But it seems some folks will go out of their way not to take training.

[evmori]

This is a good thing.

And if we lose people because they don't want to be trained then we are probably better off.