Northeast Region Area 4 Powder Horn 2011

[RWSmith]

NR Area 4 is having a Powder Horn Course the fall of 2011. The course will be hosted by Greater Pittsburgh Council, BSA at Heritage Reservation. This will be the new course, which (for the first time) allows Scouts and Crew members 14 or older to be a participant. Youth participants must have completed NYLT if a Scout, or Crew Leadership Training if a Venturer.

Dates: August 26-28, 2011
Fee: $175.00.

See http://www.gpc-bsa.org/Program/Training/Powder%20Horn.aspx for details. (More information will be posted as it is decided.)

You may also contact me directly:

wagionvigil
Course Director

[wagionvigil]

AFter a call to National about the new Course they are Suggesting a ONE WEEKND Course. WE will be deciding that locally next week. I as the Course Director I am recommending That. there are only so many weekends in a year and now wit the inclusion of youth in the course one weekend makes better sense. How may of you would be more likely to take Powder Horn if you only had to go one weekend?
I will try to add a survey But it may be separate from this.

[ThunderingWind]

I would be more apt to take the course if it was the original one week long course.

I do not like the idea of condensing things down so much.

[wagionvigil]

If it was a week that would be great BUT it was always two weekends about a month apart. ANd remember now we have students taking the course.

[biglou]

I am planning on it and might be able to take a few more.

[ThunderingWind]

If it was a week that would be great BUT it was always two weekends about a month apart. ANd remember now we have students taking the course.

Must have been a "local" thing.

[biglou]

I should have said "bring a few more". Not having a good day typing.

[kwildman]

Not sure how you would get all the stuff we did in powder horn to fit into one weekend. For six days they kept us hopping from station to station and we got hands on experience with all of the activities. I would hate to see it "streamlined" just for the sake of attendence.

Just think by the same logic you could do woodbadge in one weekend to get more people in the class. Maybe that is next.

[wagionvigil]

Just think by the same logic you could do woodbadge in one weekend to get more people in the class. Maybe that is next.

Wood Badge was 3 weekends

[wagionvigil]

Here is the link for information and to download an application

http://www.gpc-bsa.org/Program/Training/Powder%20Horn.aspx

[lifescoutforlife]

NR Area 4 is having a Powder Horn Course the fall of 2011. The course will be hosted by Greater Pittsburgh Council BSA at Camps Guyasuta and Heritage Reservation ( Both subject to change) This will be the new course which for the first time allow scouts and Crew Members 14 or older to be a participant. Youth must have completed NYLT if a Scout or Crew leadership training. The Dates are August 12-14 2011 and September 9-11 2011. You must attend both sessions to complete the training. Fee and more informations will be posted as it is decided. for more information contact
wagionvigil
Course Director
jclark15461@verizon.net

This is what is on the site

Powder Horn is a course designed to introduce Venturing and Boy Scout leaders and Venturing youth to exciting program activities and resources necessary to operate a successful outdoor adventure program.

August 26-28, 2011
Heritage Reservation – Farmington, PA


So it is down to one weekend?

[wagionvigil]

The new course is very intense one weekend course. This makes it much more Youth friendly I am about to edit my original post

[wagionvigil]

Well the course is half full so we are almost there. Remember that youth may take this course now. A scout must be 14 and have NYLT a Venterur must be 14 and have crew leadership training. 3 days of fun in the Laurel Highlands of PA Caving trip scheduled for 10 pm SAturday Night

[ronin718]

Well the course is half full so we are almost there. Remember that youth may take this course now. A scout must be 14 and have NYLT a Venterur must be 14 and have crew leadership training. 3 days of fun in the Laurel Highlands of PA Caving trip scheduled for 10 pm SAturday Night

Gee, I wonder how that caving trip got organized....

[wagionvigil]

[wagionvigil]

There are 12 slots still open for the course.WE have planned on allowing participants to arrive after 7 on Thursday evening so we may get started early and have a couple of sessions completed by Lunch time. We have also planned on trying to finish up shortly after lunch on Sunday. BTW this course is an area course hosted at heritage reservation by the Laurel Highlands Council BSA formerly Greater Pittsburgh Council BSA

[wagionvigil]

We have a full course 48 participants 14 staff. We will have six crews one is a full youth crew. We have allowed any one that wishes to arrive after 7 but before 11 on Thursday evening and anyone coming in Friday need to be there by 8 am. We are starting off at 9 am with the course.
http://www.ner4ph.org/

[wagionvigil]

Update on the course: the course finished up last Sunday after lunch. We had 47 Participants and a staff of 14. We had one crew of just youth
The consultants presented 24+ Different programs ,activities etc.
Check out our website http://www.NER4PH.org pictures will be posted over the weekend we hope. A full schedule is listed on this site.
Some thoughts from talking to participants etc
If we would have done the two weekend course we would not have any youth !!!!!!!!!
If we would have had the two weekend course at least 15 adults would not have taken the course.
We allowed participants to arrive and check in on Thursday evening between 7 and 11 this allowed us to actually start at 8:45 am.

One over the top thing we did was the caving trip. 26 took part in a shortened lower caving experience at Laurel Caverns the others did the upper public walk through tour then we all met in a room in the cave that we can shut down the lights and had a candle Light Scouts own service.

IMHO the one weekend course is the way to go especially if you want youth participation. Of course I am fully aware that there are some councils out there that would never want youth to take this advanced training.

About have of the adults were in Tan, not green, and definitely got their eyes opened.
This was an Area sponsored course hosted by the Laurel Highlands Council ( Greater Pittsburgh and Penns Woods).