"Required Training" in 2010, 2011, 2012....

[smtroop168]

Is this thing you call Ventures a new program?

[wagionvigil]

apparently it is to many many people

[RWSmith]

List of notes from National's Training web page regarding implementation of "required training" plans...

November 2009

Twenty councils will pilot required training for top leaders in 2010. Top leaders are Cubmasters, Scoutmasters, Varsity Coaches, Venturing crew Advisors, and Sea Scout Skippers. Plans are to require training for all top leaders in 2011, and all direct-contact leaders in 2012. Direct-contact leaders include all assistant leaders and den leaders. Council training teams should begin to update training records by conducting training inventories of all leaders and begin preparing to make training more readily available.

December 2009

Twenty councils will pilot required training for top leaders in 2010, and all councils will be expected to begin required training in 2011. A Frequently Asked Questions sheet is available on the training Web site that addresses many questions.

February 2010

Twenty pilot councils have begun the task of requiring training for their top leaders, and we are hearing good early reports. Training records continues to be the No. 1 issue, and we are working very hard to resolve that problem. Some training teams have named themselves SWAT teams, which stands for “Scouts Want Adults Trained.” SWAT hats are being designed for training teams that would like to order them.

April 2010

In addition to the 20 councils who are piloting required training, there are at least 25 more councils who have begun to require training for their leaders. The plans for a national effort are still undetermined, as the outcomes of the pilots will greatly determine the direction we will take in 2011 and beyond. Plan to attend the elective at the National Annual Meeting titled “Come fly the friendly skies of required training.” It will bring you up-to-date on the status of required training and much, much more.

Most training courses do not require recertification. However, there are exceptions as follows: Trainer’s EDGE (3 years), Paddle Craft Safety (3 years), Swimming and Water Rescue (3 years), Climb On Safely (2 years), Trek Safely (2 years), Safe Swim Defense (2 years), Safety Afloat (2 years), Chain Saw Safety (2 years), and Youth Protection training (2 years). National Camping School certification is good for five camping seasons.

May 2010

We are hearing that more and more councils are voluntarily requiring training for their top leaders. The plans for a national effort are still undetermined, as the outcome of the 20 pilot councils will greatly affect the direction we take in 2011 and beyond. Training teams should continue to update their training records and offer quality training courses.

[cballman]

Ok guys what has happened with the required training? Seems like all we have now is YPT. Does anybody have any timeframe yet?

Charlie

[ThunderingWind]

The only thing I have heard is the the YPT being required BEFORE the application is vetted by Council Background Check Company and BEFORE Council Registrars can enter it into Scoutnet IS causing backups and headaches and MANY MANY re-charter delays this year.

[wagionvigil]

Many councils are forging ahead wiith what was planned. Seems BSA is backing up a bit.

[RWSmith]

Ok guys what has happened with the required training? Seems like all we have now is YPT. Does anybody have any timeframe yet?

The Training Times

“Every Scout Deserves a Trained Leader!” (November 2010)

Our September and October monthly training newsletters mentioned that we are extending the Required Top Leader Training pilot course though 2011 in our 20 selected pilot councils. However, we have learned that several of those pilot councils have passed local executive board resolutions that the Required Top Leader Training initiative be completed by December 31, 2010. The volunteers and professionals in our pilot councils have worked diligently to ensure that their top leaders become fully trained, and we strongly recommend that all units adhere to local council training requirements.

For additional information or for clarification on current required training policies, please contact your local council or Christopher Smith at the national office via e-mail at christopher.smith@scouting.org or by phone at 972-580-2417. Thank you for your dedication in updating training records and completing this required training for your top leaders.

The Training Times (Archives)

REQUIRED TRAINING UPDATE (October, 2010 (Updated))

Please help spread the word that the required training pilot period has changed. Originally intended to end December 31, 2010 has now been extended through 2011. The 20 pilot councils will continue their hard work in defining the future of required top leader training in 2011 to ensure a smooth rollout to all of our councils in the future. However, local councils should consider this to be a part of their program goals for 2011, as it has already been successful in many councils across the country that has increased their training percentages. If you have further questions concerning this initiative, please do not hesitate to contact Christopher Smith at the national office for more information via e-mail at christopher.smith@scouting.org or by phone at 972-580-2417.

[FrankJ]

Our official recharter date was Feb 1. From what I have been told, it was fairly routine. YPT was actually handled in a reasonable way and was not wailing & gnashing of teeth that was predicted. The biggest issues were computer related. Some no doubt from people trying to take YPT online.

From my point of view, rechartering the crew & helping with the troop, it was not much different than any other year. The recharter app told me what YPT cards need to be in the packet.

As for as training goes, it seems to be a moving target. Go by what your council says. A large part of the issue is the scoutnet database is unreliable at best. Once again that depends on humans on the council level to enter the data. Old computer saying; Garbage in, garbage out.

[ronin718]

GIGO leads to SNAFUs which ends up with a FUBAR environment.

[Mrw]

We were required to have a valid YPT certificate for every adult in our recharter packet in December regardless of what was on file already. So some chasing to get them all turned in.

As far as Scoutnet training records, ours actually seem to be reasonably complete at this point. Although our CC and I, who have been registered longer than anyone else, have our initial training dated as 1/1/1911....

[Quailman]

My troop is requiring that all registered adult leaders be trained prior to recharter (Dec. 1). I don't know if this is a council or district edict, or if we chose to be completely trained in our troop.

We had several parents of new scouts register as ASMs this spring. Only one of them, plus my 19 year-old son, completed IOLS. Instead of not rechartering them or having untrained ASMs, we filed new paperwork and registered them as Committee Members. Talk about your smoke and mirrors! I think the idea is to resubmit as ASMs after the beginning of the year. Since I will be the CC starting next year, I won't let them transfer back until they complete training. We'll have the SM and two ASMs to sign off requirements (only SM corps can sign off per our troop policies).

[wagionvigil]

Be very Careful with the we will change them to this and then change them back.This could bite you in the behind! The Training is a National Thing. You will be trained in your registered position or you will not be registered.

[FrankJ]

National is still trying to decide what "trained" means & how to track it.

Trained or Trained There is a difference in Scouting between being “trained” and being “trained.” Confusing? Yes! So what is the volunteer training team trying to do to help?

[Quailman]

Be very Careful with the we will change them to this and then change them back.This could bite you in the behind! The Training is a National Thing. You will be trained in your registered position or you will not be registered.

They've all taken the online classes, including Troop Committee Challenge. It wasn't my idea to game the system in this manner, but if I am CC when the change-them-back paperwork comes through, I won't sign it until they complete training.

[Billiken]

Our troop has an "open-event" parent policy.
(Along the lines of "no secret societies/groups/events".)

Basically, if your son is at a BSA event, you can attend.
You may be required to submit a BSA medical form, pay a fee, and/or pass a physical fitness requirement (especailly if spending the night on BSA property).

What we do require for any adult spending the night at a troop function is completion of Youth Protection Training.

[tonkatim]

Do you also require "Protecting Gods Children?" (based on your nom de plume I am guessing that you are Catholic.) That was a major hurdle on my Packs recent campout. A few of the families were not able to go because they missed the classes that I had been announcing for at least 6 months.

[smtroop168]

Do you also require "Protecting Gods Children?" (based on your nom de plume I am guessing that you are Catholic.) That was a major hurdle on my Packs recent campout. A few of the families were not able to go because they missed the classes that I had been announcing for at least 6 months.

The Catholic Diocese here has required YPT for anyone who has regular contact with youth activities (Sports, Religious Ed etc). Our committee made the determination that we would make sure all the CMs and SM/ASMs had completed the video/paperwork.

[tonkatim]

Here we have to have Protecting Gods Children to interact regularly with children. YPT is required (of course) to be a Scout leader. But, Protecting Gods Children is required to camp over night for any adult. I had to turn away two families that did not have the course.

It's interesting that your Diocese uses BSA training.

[smtroop168]

Here we have to have Protecting Gods Children to interact regularly with children. YPT is required (of course) to be a Scout leader. But, Protecting Gods Children is required to camp over night for any adult. I had to turn away two families that did not have the course.

It's interesting that your Diocese uses BSA training.

They don't..it's the Diocese YPT..sorry for any confusion