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Seascout wrote:We are noticing a disjunct in BSA policy concerning exactly this topic. In a perfect world, all summer camp merit badge counselors would be qualified and would review each scout in his classes for each point of the merit badge he is teaching. The reality is sometimes much different to this.
We understand that once a Council approved merit badge counselor has signed off on a requirement, it is deemed to have been met. Period. We also note that the criterion the counselor should have held does not change simply because of the summer camp setting. So what happens if/when a blue-card is signed off by a counselor for criterion which were obviously NOT met? (We had one boy for whom a canoeing merit badge was signed off who had not been allowed in the canoe because he was classified as a non-swimmer. Each time we have kids earning badges at summer/winter camp, there are at least a few questionable approvals - if not this extreme.)
Because of this, our troop policy has been to have an appropriate local merit badge counselor go over the each badge with the boys - not in a testing kind of way, but simply checking with him to see if he actually did each of the activities required. If he reports that he didn't, or if it is obvious that the requirement could not have taken place at summer camp, the counselor makes arrangements with the boy to finish the badge properly so it can be awarded. This seems to be approved by the BSA policy which does not permit merit badges to be awarded at camp, but leaves final approval and awards to the troop committee.
Do other troops have a similar policy? If not, how do you handle the flagrant, if only occasional, abuses of a policy that would simply hand out the summer camp earned badge without question?
Our policy has been questioned as being in violation of BSA procedures by a couple of parents. I'd be interested in feedback as to how we are handling this.
Seascout wrote:Thanks for your quick reply and for your feedback. I also found another forum where other leaders had discussed frustration with this issue.
We are in the process of changing our policy to conform to BSA regulations, but the quandary remains.
To clarify the situation with the non-swimmer in a canoeing merit badge, the blue card was initiated prior to the swim test at camp. The boy had passed an earlier test in the troop, but paused during his swim test at camp and was designated as a non-swimmer for that reason.
When he was awarded the badge (and another in Fishing that had a missing requirement that had been signed off), he returned them on his own to the advancement chair saying he did not feel he had earned them. He has since completed canoeing correctly and even attended Northern Tier during a recent trip there. A scout is, indeed, honorable.
And now you know the rest of the story.
lambeausam wrote:At camp last week, none of the kids that took archery completed the badge. The instructor failed to go over one of the requirements with them. Can't remember which one, but it was one that was revised in 2009. The program director for that area apologized profusely, but to his credit didn't sign the cards as completed. Tough for the scouts to take, but in the bigger picture, the young man was honest about what the instructor in his program area actually covered.
smtroop168 wrote:This is a good example of why I do a midweek status check. I caught a Cooking MB issue a couple of years ago and got it corrected before Saturday morning.
lambeausam wrote:smtroop168 wrote:This is a good example of why I do a midweek status check. I caught a Cooking MB issue a couple of years ago and got it corrected before Saturday morning.
Midweek status checks were done, but this was a discussion item that was to be covered during class on Thursday or Friday. When the kids left class on Friday, they didn't even know there was a requirement missing. When one of our scoutmasters went over the closing reports on Friday night, he noticed that none of our Archery attendees completed the badge, yet all of the target qualifications were met. When I talked to the range program director on Saturday morning, he explained that the instructor failed to complete the requirement with the scouts.
Bill Pitcher wrote:While on the subject of Summer Camp: has anyone experienced young kids (under 18) teaching MB's and either the Program Dir. or the Camp Dir. signing the blue cards? We've got it this year!
lambeausam wrote:At camp last week, none of the kids that took archery completed the badge. The instructor failed to go over one of the requirements with them. Can't remember which one, but it was one that was revised in 2009. The program director for that area apologized profusely, but to his credit didn't sign the cards as completed. Tough for the scouts to take, but in the bigger picture, the young man was honest about what the instructor in his program area actually covered.
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