Question about Venture Patrols

[BSTroop23Eagle]

Im not sure if this is where to ask it or not...

I'm already 18 but i would like to continue with scouting after i have already recieved eagle but,,, i dont want to be an adult leader yet. Can sumone explain to me what ventureing entails? thank you very much

[West]

Ventureing is probably my favorite BSA program (except seascouts). If you find the right group it should involve lots of High Adventure trips. The older age of the members means you can do a heck of a lot more as well.

I'd say check out the website http://www.scouting.org/venturing/

Also here's some of what my old venture group used to do. The site hasn't been updated since I moved, but it will give you an idea. http://www.sos.mtu.edu/tesa

[vpalango]

BSTroop23Eagle...

One of my "hats" is as a Unit Commissioner, and I'm involved right now in getting a new Venture Crew going in a troop. It got started in part for the same reasons you are looknig to join venturing, older scouts who don't want to move into adult leadership positions.

In this case, a small group of scouts who had all earned thier Eagle badges wanted to do some "advanced" activities, keep some friendships together, and stay active in scouting.

They formed a venture crew (as an outgrowth of thier troop), and are planning a number of more challenging outdoor trips (this crew is very focused on long-distance hiking), and are looking at hiking large portions of the Apliachian Trail.

Keep on going with scouting, and it seems to me that Venturing might be exactly the type of program you're looking for.

[wagionvigil]

A Venture Crew is a separate charter from a Troop Charter.

[vpalango]

A Venture Crew is a separate charter from a Troop Charter.

True, I was pointing out the specific case that this venture crew was a direct outgrowth of the troop. Yes a separate chartered unit, with the same Charter Organization.

In this case, the scouts moving into the Venture Crew/Patrol were listed now as primary in the Venture Crew, and multiple on the Troop charter.

[wagionvigil]

Never call them a patrol when they are in a crew. That is not a Venturing term. They can be called patrol in the troop. But do not mix the two.
Are you opening your crew to Females? If not why? That is one of the main reasons for the program. Besides allowing 18 tp 21 year olds stay active and still can earn awards. But not Boy SCout Awards.

[vpalango]

Never call them a patrol when they are in a crew. That is not a Venturing term. They can be called patrol in the troop. But do not mix the two.
Are you opening your crew to Females? If not why? That is one of the main reasons for the program. Besides allowing 18 tp 21 year olds stay active and still can earn awards. But not Boy SCout Awards.

I stand corrected on the "patrol" terminology. The group is starting out as a group of boys from a single troop. At this time, they want to get it going as an outgrowth of the troop, allowing members of the troop to continue in scouting within the venturing program.

The crew is not planning on initially recruiting outside the senior memebers of the Troop in question. Note, this is thier choice, not mine as the Unit Commissioner. I've mentioned to them that they can recruit outside the troop for membership, but at this time they want to (again thier choice) keep the unit small, and are not doing any outside recruiting.

Right now, I'm not rocking the boat in any way, and am looking to foster the crew and make sure it gets going, and gets an active program going. Once its strong, I'm sure we'll re-visit recruiting issues, including female members.

VLP

[wagionvigil]

Sounds like a plan. Most Regions are haveing a thing called Venture Quest which is training over a weekend. NE is in May. There are several good sites online to pick up Venturing Information do some searching.

[commish3]

Returning to BSTroop23's original question...

Can sumone explain to me what ventureing entails?

Venturing is the third program level of the BSA it is designed to meet the activity and character needs of young men and women ages 14 through 20. It is a separate program from Troop scoutig requiring a separate charter. It has few adults (persons 21 years and older) involved than a pack or troop require.

Its unit is called a Crew and the youth members serve in a variety of leadership and administrative positions. Crews can be co-ed or all male or all famale. Crews can also have specic emphasis programs such as religious service, arts, high adventure, etc. Venturing has it's own advancement program and different uniforming from troops.

You can find more information from your local scout office in a number of brochures, videos and handbooks on Venturing.

If you want to learn about Venture Crews in your area or learn how to start one you should contact your local scouting professional.

Best wishes

[riverwalk]

Good question. It can sound a little strange as well. Yes, you can be in Venturing as a Youth member until 21, even though your Troop has to cease recognizing you as a Youth after 18. Glad you want to continue with the Troop too.

[wagionvigil]

Venturing uses OA rules as per age. Just like Jamboree staff does

[RWSmith]

Good thing is, as far as I know... You can register as an adult in your troop, yet still remain a registered, active youth in both, the OA and "Venturing." Crew that is, not Patrol.

[BSTroop23Eagle]

thank you all very much its been a big help the rest of my former patrol in scouting is also gonna come over so i guess we will make our own crew

[wagionvigil]

RWS is correct you can ne an asm in the troop and a member of a crew

[BSTroop23Eagle]

RWS is correct you can ne an asm in the troop and a member of a crew

wow thats a very good thing to know thank you

[West]

Yep, I did that myself until I turned 21. Then I becaue the Associate Advisor for the venture crew, and just a commitee member for my old troop. Then last year I moved back here and I'm the Charter Rep for my old troop and pack now.